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Fujimi 1/24 scale Martini Porsche 917 K

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 After more then 8 years of one aircraft model after another, and being a long time road racing fan from the early 1060s, I thought it was about time that I included racing cars into my model building schedule. And with time no longer on my side, now is the perfect time to start. 

   Rather then jump into the world of Formula 1 as it seems to be the most modeled series, I thought I'd model a personal favorite from the FIA Endurance races of yesteryear. For me the Iconic Porsche 917 series totally dominated the 1970's Prototype class, and was by far my favorte P type car. Unlike most makes, Porsche didn't race the cars under the Porsche factory banner, but rather had a team or a few teams that it treated as their factory teams.  

   My favorite team from the late 1960s through the the 1980s was the John Wyler Gulf Team. And so I set out to build one of the Fujimi 1/24 scale Wyler Gulf Porsche 917 K versions. Unfortunately, the kit isn't available except from the Orient, so I decided go with the Team Piper version which I picked up at the 2018 Noreastcon for steal. I figured I'd just buy new decals from IndyCal, but when I checked they didn't make any Wyler/Gulf Porsche 917K decals. So I switched "gears" and went with the Martini 1971 LeMans winning car decals. When I opened the box to start the kit, to my horror I discovered that the Piper version was a short track car without the vertical Stabilizers that Porsche added for the 1971 race, which preceeded the long tail version. So I was faced with this:

 

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The correct tail looks like this:

 

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 So I decided to just make my own out of .020 sheet plastic using a tracing of the decals as a guide.

 

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 I drilled holes for pins in both the rear deck and the bottom of the Stabs to add a little more strength to the joint. Also, the car doesn't have those intake ducts on the side of the engine fan housing. The kit does contain plugs, but the fit is pretty poor. So after the glue had dried I sanded them to shape, then a liberal coating of Bondo, and when dry sanded and polished. Feels pretty smooth to me.
 

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 The rear of the  engine deck also needed every seam sanded and puttied, and it's a sinlge piece molding in real life. Only the tail winglets were bolted on. 

  The front deck which is also the top of the cockpit, had it issues, none that weren't easy enough to correct. Fujimi has both radiator housing covers in the kit, so I glued the correct one into place. The cover was to tall, and the Zeus fasteners were way out of scale. I sanded them off, and took down the radiator cover to be level with the body. Now I just have to figure out how to make new fasteners or buy some. Also there is another small intake right in front of the windscreen that wasn't used on this car, so I plugged, and then Bondo'd it. The last item is the cockpit top window. Fujimi gives you a plug for it as almost all the various 917s didn't use it. I glued the plug in. Then Bondo and sanded smooth.

  Fujimi molded the front clip as a separate piece as I'm sure that it was due to how they made molds back in the 1990s, so I glued it on, then sanded, a nice coat of Bondo filler, and got the clip to look like it was molded with front body section. 

 

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 Final polishing is next to get ready for the primer coat. Unfortunately, my order from Gravity paints which inlcudes their complete painting process that I ordered on May 17th was 1st held up due to Mate' recieving the wrong bottle caps. Then on 6/1 he started to accept orders again, but everyday when I check my order status, it's still listed as being processed. Daily using he contact form, I ask for the status of my order and if he offers tracking. Unfortunately, he never has replied to this point. If I need to cancel my order through PayPal, then I'll go with MCW Paints as they get top marks as well.

 

Joel
 

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Looking forward to this! Those 917s were monsters. I love Le Mans with Steve McQueen.

 

And it's Dzus fastener, not Zeus.

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4 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Looking forward to this! Those 917s were monsters. I love Le Mans with Steve McQueen.

 

And it's Dzus fastener, not Zeus.

Slartbartfast.

  My apologies for once again misspelling Dzus, it's a mental thing with me.

  I'm going to have to break down and buy from Japan the John Wyler Gulf Porsche 917K that Steve McQueen drove in the movie, as well as the other John Wyler Gulf cars, as it was my favorite team back in the 1970s.

Joel 

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On 6/7/2018 at 8:49 PM, Joel_W said:

  I'm going to have to break down and buy from Japan the John Wyler Gulf Porsche 917K that Steve McQueen drove in the movie, as well as the other John Wyler Gulf cars, as it was my favorite team back in the 1970s.

Joel 

Hi Joel, funny as in coincidental, I am completing a 1970 Monte Carlo build and am trying to perfect the very glossy finish I have seen other modelers can create, I am no where near this process yet and want to get there soon as I want to build my car (2013 Boss 302) soon. I find building in different subjects only expands ones skills in the modelling arena.

I will be following you once again my friend and also a I placed a link for the 917K (on my wish list in Amazon). Not sure if it is the same as you referenced, but I do like the look if it and remember my uncle had this kit in his display when I was very young.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00QW7YDE4/?coliid=I1S6SUIO4P2EHC&colid=2F4YTSAJPI4VE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Cheers

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On ‎6‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 7:29 PM, AlienFrogModeller said:

Hi Joel, funny as in coincidental, I am completing a 1970 Monte Carlo build and am trying to perfect the very glossy finish I have seen other modelers can create, I am no where near this process yet and want to get there soon as I want to build my car (2013 Boss 302) soon. I find building in different subjects only expands ones skills in the modelling arena.

I will be following you once again my friend and also a I placed a link for the 917K (on my wish list in Amazon). Not sure if it is the same as you referenced, but I do like the look if it and remember my uncle had this kit in his display when I was very young.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00QW7YDE4/?coliid=I1S6SUIO4P2EHC&colid=2F4YTSAJPI4VE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Cheers

AFM,

   So very glad to have you along on my maiden Auto build. I'm thinking that learning a completely new painting and finishing technique will come in mighty handy when I do tackle (sooner then later) some of those between the wars Naval aircraft.  Like you, my previous few efforts have been dismal at best.

 

  What I've come to discover is that watching videos of others create those perfect mile deep gloss finishes is way easier then doing it. What I've come away with is a basic understanding of how the whole process works, and it's no where like how I paint military aircraft. For starters I'm going with auto lacquer paints that have been thinned down enough not to eat through the compatible lacquer primer applied in those then coats then increasing to wet coats. Rubbing out the orange peel seems to be a must so that the decals don't need a clear gloss coat, as the paints I'm going to be using are MCW paints which are gloss lacquer to start with. It's the top clear coat that is so super important. Mine going with Lacquer as well, even though the current trend is for a two part Urethane clear like our cars have. Just to toxic for me even with a spray booth vented straight out the window, and the fact that it can easily clog your AB if left to long and it dries. I hear it's impossible to remove it once it gets to that stage. And it's super expensive. Both Zero and Gravity paints sell very small bottles in a 3 part set for $22-25! 

  

  Would love to follow your cars builds. Why not join me with build blogs in ARC's car section. Maybe we can kick start it with others who also build cars/trucks/cycles besides military models. And yes you've selected the correct 917K on Amazon. Wyler had both the 20 & 22 cars with slightly different Orange striping. I'm planning on doing one plus the 1971 Martini 917k Sebring winner. 

 

Joel

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Nice start Joel.
The scratched tails look great!
I built a gulf gt40 a while back and have a Subaru rally car on my shelf of doom currently.

She's there because I polished through the clear coat trying to get rid of orange peel... ugh
I certainly agree that they take a different skill set. 
Following along!

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7 minutes ago, CaptainObvious said:

Nice start Joel.
The scratched tails look great!
I built a gulf gt40 a while back and have a Subaru rally car on my shelf of doom currently.

She's there because I polished through the clear coat trying to get rid of orange peel... ugh
I certainly agree that they take a different skill set. 
Following along!

Capt. Obvious,

 Welcome to my great adventure. I can use all the moral support and technical advice I can get on this one. 

  Believe me I feel your pain and frustration about rubbing through the paint. I do know that you rub out the orange peel before the clear coats as it will also have a little that needs to be removed.  The last car kit I built I did the same thing, and ruined a $75 Jaguar kit. My temper got the best of me, and it was tossed. I just should have put it down, and later in life tried again.

 

Joel

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Hey Joel,

The mica blue metallic paint used on the Subaru would change shades if polished. It was hard to get a even finish that way.
Which was why I took the lazy method of laying down a few clear coats and just polishing that.

I will try to get back to finishing her soon.

 

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8 hours ago, Joel_W said:

AFM,

   So very glad to have you along on my maiden Auto build. I'm thinking that learning a completely new painting and finishing technique will come in mighty handy when I do tackle (sooner then later) some of those between the wars Naval aircraft.  Like you, my previous few efforts have been dismal at best.

 

  What I've come to discover is that watching videos of others create those perfect mile deep gloss finishes is way easier then doing it. What I've come away with is a basic understanding of how the whole process works, and it's no where like how I paint military aircraft. For starters I'm going with auto lacquer paints that have been thinned down enough not to eat through the compatible lacquer primer applied in those then coats then increasing to wet coats. Rubbing out the orange peel seems to be a must so that the decals don't need a clear gloss coat, as the paints I'm going to be using are MCW paints which are gloss lacquer to start with. It's the top clear coat that is so super important. Mine going with Lacquer as well, even though the current trend is for a two part Urethane clear like our cars have. Just to toxic for me even with a spray booth vented straight out the window, and the fact that it can easily clog your AB if left to long and it dries. I hear it's impossible to remove it once it gets to that stage. And it's super expensive. Both Zero and Gravity paints sell very small bottles in a 3 part set for $22-25! 

  

  Would love to follow your cars builds. Why not join me with build blogs in ARC's car section. Maybe we can kick start it with others who also build cars/trucks/cycles besides military models. And yes you've selected the correct 917K on Amazon. Wyler had both the 20 & 22 cars with slightly different Orange striping. I'm planning on doing one plus the 1971 Martini 917k Sebring winner. 

 

Joel

Joel,

I have my Boss 302 out, your tempting me. Maybe I can work it in between my Hornet builds. 

I too have been watching many Utoob builds with the clear gloss finish. One thing that really surprised me is the Mr Color Super Clear III thinned to 1: 2.5 and in some cases up to 1:3. As for the orange peel finish, I might just plug away at a few practice pieces first to master the mile deep gloss.

 

Dammit Joel...it's going to be an OOB build except some flocking on the floor. 

 

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Wow- I’ve managed to scroll all the way down to the auto threads!  Great start so far Joel- I’m looking forward to seeing your progress.  Looks like you may be starting a trend for all of us airplane modelers, ha!

 

Steve

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4 hours ago, Falconxlvi said:

Wow- I’ve managed to scroll all the way down to the auto threads!  Great start so far Joel- I’m looking forward to seeing your progress.  Looks like you may be starting a trend for all of us airplane modelers, ha!

 

Steve

Steve,

   It was like alien territory to me too.  Nothing wrong with us plane jockey's to have another modeling interest.  Of course an interest is one thing, learning to build a car, bike, or truck to the same set of standards that we model aircraft is a whole different ballgame from what I can tell. 

  I'm about ready to do a small update by the weekend. Modeling has slowed down some with the warmer weather little by little finally getting here. And I'm out saltwater fishing once or twice per week. As a matter of fact I fished today, and Porgy is on the menu for dinner tonight.

Joel

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4 minutes ago, Joel_W said:

Steve,

   It was like alien territory to me too.  Nothing wrong with us plane jockey's to have another modeling interest.  Of course an interest is one thing, learning to build a car, bike, or truck to the same set of standards that we model aircraft is a whole different ballgame from what I can tell. 

  I'm about ready to do a small update by the weekend. Modeling has slowed down some with the warmer weather little by little finally getting here. And I'm out saltwater fishing once or twice per week. As a matter of fact I fished today, and Porgy is on the menu for dinner tonight.

Joel

Joel,

  Congratulations on the catch!  It’s good to leave the man cave in the summertime every once in awhile.    I’m looking forward to your update and learning along the way.  I have always wanted to build a couple of LeMans/endurance cars from the late 90s- specifically the Porsche 911 GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, and a McClaren F1.  My dad and I grew up watching all forms of road racing and I fell in love with that era of sports cars.   Anyways- there’s a MiG-15, Sherman Tanks, and Bf 109G-2 to finish before I can even think about starting a new project.  

 

Cheers, 

 

Steve

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16 hours ago, Falconxlvi said:

Joel,

  Congratulations on the catch!  It’s good to leave the man cave in the summertime every once in awhile.    I’m looking forward to your update and learning along the way.  I have always wanted to build a couple of LeMans/endurance cars from the late 90s- specifically the Porsche 911 GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, and a McClaren F1.  My dad and I grew up watching all forms of road racing and I fell in love with that era of sports cars.   Anyways- there’s a MiG-15, Sherman Tanks, and Bf 109G-2 to finish before I can even think about starting a new project.  

 

Cheers, 

 

Steve

Steve,

  The 1960's through the 1990s is my golden era of all forms of road racing. The exception is that the Champ/Cart/Indy cars ran only ovals back in the early champ car days. Never much of a Nascar kind of guy as the oval races ran about 4hrs, and my attention span wasn't nearly long enough. I do watch the Daytona 500, the Brickyard 400, the Glen, and Sonoma races. 

 

   I've got the McLaren F1 team car in my small stash. Your list is pretty darn cool if you ask me. When you want a break from Military builds, just start one and see where  you go.

 

Joel

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