ALF18 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Hey folks. This is one I bought at a Canadian Aviation Museum. I can't remember for sure, but I think it was the one in Edmonton, at the old Municipal Airport. The gift shop was selling a Revell kit, with resin "sugar scoops" and decals to do the Sabre that Vintage Wings in Gatineau painted up as Hawk One Canada. This is the real thing. A good buddy of mine, pictured here, flew it into the airshow in Bagotville 3 years ago. He allowed me and my good buddy AX_365 to sit in it. The big grin on my face is well-earned. Although the seat is from a Tutor (which Pierre from the above pic, and I, have thousands of hours flying), and the avionics are somewhat upgraded (Garmin), it is still THE classic jet fighter. My Uncle flew these jets, and so did AX_365's wife's uncle. I have been waiting to have adequate free time to do this model, and now with summer finally upon us, it's time. I will be posting some walkaround pics I took very soon. ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Nice pics! I almost have my 1/72 Hobbycraft Canadair Sabre 6 GH done. Could have used some good walk around pics! Is that kit, Revell 1/48, actually the old Monogram kit? I had that, nice kit, hard wing with wing fences if I remember correct. Will be watching with great interest!---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 hours ago, john53 said: Nice pics! I almost have my 1/72 Hobbycraft Canadair Sabre 6 GH done. Could have used some good walk around pics! Is that kit, Revell 1/48, actually the old Monogram kit? I had that, nice kit, hard wing with wing fences if I remember correct. Will be watching with great interest!---John John, I confess I am really no expert on kit origin, nor on Sabre wings (which I do plan to rectify). I forgot to mention that the kit also comes with corrected wingtips and a bent pitot tube. I'll post some pics of the sprues soon; maybe you can help me confirm the kit's origin. Thanks for looking in. ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thanks, I believe it is the Hasegawa kit. I just looked at the instructions at Hobby Search. Doesn't remind me at all of the old Monogram kit. I am liking the intake, and engine. Much better kit. Enjoy---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DONG Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Yes it's the Hasegawa kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 You wanna 1/48 Tutor seat, PM me. the wing tank/ pylons are further inboard than standard Sabre pylons. I don’t have a measurement, just go by photos. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 As promised, here are some walkaround pics I took at the airshow in Bagotville. Not a careful job, but some pics that might help. ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) That kit you have was released by Dan Dempsey's brother Rick, who owns a company called Specialty Jets Unlimited. It is a Revell boxing of the Hasegawa kit. I should know who produced the decals for Specialty Jets, I don’t think it was Leading Edge. Edit - you very likely bought it at the Alberta Aviation Museum in Edmonton, they had a lot of them in stock. I think they still have stock. Rick supplied them with stock. Edited June 27, 2018 by Scooby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Thanks! I will be adding the brace to the drop tank soon, most helpful! Like that CF-188 in the back round.When's Canada get it's Super Hornets? There is also a line opening up for F-16 block 70s. Good planes.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, john53 said: Thanks! I will be adding the brace to the drop tank soon, most helpful! Like that CF-188 in the back round.When's Canada get it's Super Hornets? There is also a line opening up for F-16 block 70s. Good planes.---John Super Hornet is cancelled, our PM is likely shopping for a European product now, especially considering Canada/US relations are broken at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Yup---John Edited June 27, 2018 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Scooby said: That kit you have was released by Dan Dempsey's brother Rick, who owns a company called Specialty Jets Unlimited. It is a Revell boxing of the Hasegawa kit. I should know who produced the decals for Specialty Jets, I don’t think it was Leading Edge. Edit - you very likely bought it at the Alberta Aviation Museum in Edmonton, they had a lot of them in stock. I think they still have stock. Rick supplied them with stock. Exactly where I got it, Scooby. Nice to know Dan Dempsey's brother was behind that. No wonder he could get great references for the decals and instructions. 13 hours ago, john53 said: Thanks! I will be adding the brace to the drop tank soon, most helpful! Like that CF-188 in the back round.When's Canada get it's Super Hornets? There is also a line opening up for F-16 block 70s. Good planes.---John Glad to help, John53. Never in a million years should Canada buy Super Hornets. It would be a huge mistake. Yesterday's technology tomorrow. Also, even new-block F-16s are passé. We need to buy the F-35. If the politicians continue to interfere with acquisition, we will not get what we need to properly defend Canada's interests. But then again, what would a retired CF-18 pilot know about this subject? ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) On 6/23/2018 at 9:46 PM, Snowbird3a said: You wanna 1/48 Tutor seat, PM me. the wing tank/ pylons are further inboard than standard Sabre pylons. I don’t have a measurement, just go by photos. Tony Thanks, Tony, for the heads up about the pylon placement. I can already see that the tank fins seem different from other Golden Hawks shots I have seen. ALF Edited June 27, 2018 by ALF18 Clarified. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, ALF18 said: Exactly where I got it, Scooby. Nice to know Dan Dempsey's brother was behind that. No wonder he could get great references for the decals and instructions. Glad to help, John53. Never in a million years should Canada buy Super Hornets. It would be a huge mistake. Yesterday's technology tomorrow. Also, even new-block F-16s are passé. We need to buy the F-35. If the politicians continue to interfere with acquisition, we will not get what we need to properly defend Canada's interests. But then again, what would a retired CF-18 pilot know about this subject? ALF 👍👍👍---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 22 hours ago, ALF18 said: As promised, here are some walkaround pics I took at the airshow in Bagotville. Not a careful job, but some pics that might help. Man, she sure is purty! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) On 6/26/2018 at 8:54 PM, Scooby said: That kit you have was released by Dan Dempsey's brother Rick, who owns a company called Specialty Jets Unlimited. It is a Revell boxing of the Hasegawa kit. I should know who produced the decals for Specialty Jets, I don’t think it was Leading Edge. Edit - you very likely bought it at the Alberta Aviation Museum in Edmonton, they had a lot of them in stock. I think they still have stock. Rick supplied them with stock. If I recall correctly, Mike Grant was hired to do the decals......the sheet was sold separately at one point too... Edited June 28, 2018 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/27/2018 at 8:18 AM, ALF18 said: As promised, here are some walkaround pics I took at the airshow in Bagotville. Not a careful job, but some pics that might help. ALF Nice pics! Do you have any more shots of the slat + slat-wells? Especially the access panel shots? Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 from my walkaround in Comox 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 AWESOME Stuff! Great pics Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 20 hours ago, RCAFFAN said: If I recall correctly, Mike Grant was hired to do the decals......the sheet was sold separately at one point too... Correct, how did that slip my mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Most excellent slat shots!!!!! Sugar scoops? Thanks, most helpful, wish I had these 6 months ago. ☹️---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AX 365 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I remember that day. That was a lot of fun, as it usually is. I still recall the F-22 demo. Wow! I remember 'shoe horning' my can into a Hornet a few years ago and then getting into Hawk One last year and being able to 'dance around'. There was certainly more room in the Sabre than there was in the Hornet. It was a thrill and a privilege being able to sit in both. Nice choice of subject, ALF. As a friendly reminder, Hawk One was a Sabre 5 fuselage with F-86F-40 wings with the 12" extensions. If you plan to build this as the late Hawk One, and the kit has the F-40 wings, you won't need to perform any surgery to graft the resin or plastic wing tips. As a reference... Look forward to your build, sire. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AX 365 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 44 minutes ago, john53 said: Most excellent slat shots!!!!! Sugar scoops? Thanks, most helpful, wish I had these 6 months ago. ☹️---John John, Yes. Hawk One had sugar scoop intakes. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Just a wee bit confused. I thought Mk 5 GH were hard wing with fences and Mk 6 were slatted. So is this Hawk One an actual bird that performed with the Golden Hawks or a rebuild? Sounds like it is a combination of the two marks?----John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AX 365 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 John, The serial number for the fuselage is 23314 or construction number 1104 from Canadair. It was a Sabre 5, with hard wing and fences, that was built in 1954 and flew operationally with 441 Sqn, 1 Wing, Marville, France. It was seconded to the Golden Hawks as a training aircraft in late 1962. I don't think it ever flew as an actual Golden Hawk. When it was purchased by Vintage Wings of Canada, it already had the F-40 wings. I don't know when those wings were retrofitted to the aircraft. I understand the VWoC attempted to find a set of Sabre 5 / F-86F-30 wings with the fences but they were unable to do so, so the F-40 wings remained. It also has the uprated Orenda 14 engine commonly used in the Sabre 6. So, it is a rebuild with various upgrades and improvements. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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