Mstor Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 It appears that Kitty Hawk wants to do a Su-27 now. Song Wang posted a "blurp" on the Kitty Hawk Facebook page. Jeeess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Can’t wait. 😐 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, 11bee said: Can’t wait. 😐 11bee, your enthusiasm is infectious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 If they can do it better than Su-34, why not? Just little bit more attention to details (these rudder pedals are hilarious, missing location pins and holes here and there) and molding quality (little flash in many places). I'd prefer 1/32 though 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 GREAT! Maybe they will drag Great Wall Hobby with them like their Su-35 model 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 And? Academy is old as hell at this point and fairly inaccurate. If Kitty Hawk gets the dimensions correct even that is a win for modelbuilders at large. I am sure KH will screw something up, because that is what they do, but it would still be hard for KH to screw up so much it is actually worse than Academy. So will it be perfect or comparable to GWH or AMK? Of course not. But if dont wildly screw it up there is still over 2 decades between the kits so it is bound to be better than Academy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 It needs to be better than a certain Hobbyboss kit(s).. Academy is no longer a talking point, frankly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 12:44 AM, foxmulder_ms said: GREAT! Maybe they will drag Great Wall Hobby with them like their Su-35 model 😄 Word. Model Wars! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, foxmulder_ms said: It needs to be better than a certain Hobbyboss kit(s).. Academy is no longer a talking point, frankly. Ah yes, you are right, forgot about that line of kits. Still though, there are areas for improvement even over those kits like the LERX area, spine and landing gear doors being angled iirc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delide Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 15 hours ago, Berkut said: And? Academy is old as hell at this point and fairly inaccurate. If Kitty Hawk gets the dimensions correct even that is a win for modelbuilders at large. I am sure KH will screw something up, because that is what they do, but it would still be hard for KH to screw up so much it is actually worse than Academy. So will it be perfect or comparable to GWH or AMK? Of course not. But if dont wildly screw it up there is still over 2 decades between the kits so it is bound to be better than Academy. And?? And that's why KH will ever continue to screw thing up, why put any more time and effort into research and correcting things, when people will buy their plastic for good money anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The HB kits are "ok" in my opinion. There are areas where they are really quite poor, actually. The exhausts for example, the aforementioned wheel well angle, and some of the surface detailing is purely fictional. Based n my experience with the KH Su-35, an Su-27 from them can "only" be better than the HB version. Sure, HB kits assemble well, but KH kits are more accurate and better detailed. The Su-17's are an example of that. M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt Walker said: The HB kits are "ok" in my opinion. There are areas where they are really quite poor, actually. The exhausts for example, the aforementioned wheel well angle, and some of the surface detailing is purely fictional. Based n my experience with the KH Su-35, an Su-27 from them can "only" be better than the HB version. Sure, HB kits assemble well, but KH kits are more accurate and better detailed. The Su-17's are an example of that. M Is there a build somewhere or a list that shows what the problems are with the HB kit? I have the HB kit and at a glance it looks nice and it seems to build up to a decent representation of the Su-27. Would just like to know where the problems are and how difficult it is to correct them. I will not rush out to buy the KH kit, when and if it arrives. If it proves to be a significantly superior model and is not torturous to build, I may consider it down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 10:39 AM, delide said: And?? And that's why KH will ever continue to screw thing up, why put any more time and effort into research and correcting things, when people will buy their plastic for good money anyway? I have been plenty vocal about KH previously, time after time. Their MiG-25 kit was pure abomination for instance. However, there isnt a point to bash them just to bash them. There has been some improvement on their most recent kits like Su-35S, even with its silly issues. They might invent new issues that HB kits didnt have, but there is quite high likelyhood they will be improvement over HB kits anyway. 23 hours ago, Mstor said: Is there a build somewhere or a list that shows what the problems are with the HB kit? I have the HB kit and at a glance it looks nice and it seems to build up to a decent representation of the Su-27. Would just like to know where the problems are and how difficult it is to correct them. I will not rush out to buy the KH kit, when and if it arrives. If it proves to be a significantly superior model and is not torturous to build, I may consider it down the line. There is a good thread on here that discusses the HB kit and points out its issues like the aforementioned by me above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delide Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 6:02 PM, Berkut said: I have been plenty vocal about KH previously, time after time. Their MiG-25 kit was pure abomination for instance. However, there isnt a point to bash them just to bash them. There has been some improvement on their most recent kits like Su-35S, even with its silly issues. They might invent new issues that HB kits didnt have, but there is quite high likelyhood they will be improvement over HB kits anyway. Yes, but I only see some of us are just not excited about it, that’s not bashing and you can’t really blame them? Maybe it will be an improvement over HB more or less, I could ague that their MiG-25 was probably an improvement too, but anyway, so their Su-35 is OK now, I guess that’s because more and more people are getting so fed up with their kits, so they are feeling the pressure now and finally putting some more efforts, so that is good. Still I didn’t bother to look at their Su-35 and regrets I have zero. Italeri may have cowardly back out of their Jaguar project, but it seems to me that other manufactrers now have less and less regards for KH’s subjects, see the MiG-25, F-35A, Su-35, and now Mirage F1, so who knows, the chance indeed may not be that bad, that there will be an even better choice in the future, I for one will be saving my excitement and wait for other serious manufacturers to take over their menu more and more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 11:02 AM, Berkut said: There is a good thread on here that discusses the HB kit and points out its issues like the aforementioned by me above. Found it. Thanks Berkut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 12:33 PM, Berkut said: And? Academy is old as hell at this point and fairly inaccurate. If Kitty Hawk gets the dimensions correct even that is a win for modelbuilders at large. I am sure KH will screw something up, because that is what they do, but it would still be hard for KH to screw up so much it is actually worse than Academy. So will it be perfect or comparable to GWH or AMK? Of course not. But if dont wildly screw it up there is still over 2 decades between the kits so it is bound to be better than Academy. Awesome...well said Berkut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 I agree. More than likely KH will screw up a bunch of minor stuff as they've done with their Su-35 and Su-34 kits. Thing is, unless it is very much more accurate than the HB kit, which I already have, then I probably won't consider getting it. I know the HB kit has problems, but I think I can live with them and build a decent Su-27. I've realized recently that I am getting too old to build to the level I once could and I would just like to do some of the aircraft I like before I slip this mortal coil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kslmn Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The recent Kitty hawk's kits are awesome compare to before, and the SU-34 and 35 are just fine, I also have the GWH's Su-35 too, and both are great in different way. I can't wait to complete the SUkhoi's family as the SU-27, UB and the SU-30. Their next release should be the yak-130 right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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