HeavyArty Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yes, back to modeling. The pic of the ceiling structure looks really nice. I didn't see that one when I was looking for examples. That pic should give you all you all you need if you decide to model it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, HeavyArty said: Yes, back to modeling. The pic of the ceiling structure looks really nice. I didn't see that one when I was looking for examples. That pic should give you all you all you need if you decide to model it. That's because it's from the Jay Miller Bell archives I scanned a while back, Gino. I should have put that in the post. I always try to identify the source of my references. Some things just can't be Googled! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 58 minutes ago, HeavyArty said: I am sorry I hurt everybody sensitive feelings. You guys really need to grow a little thicker skins. Oh by the way, everyone's a winner and everybody's builds are awesome. Does that make all of you feel better? Up to this point, I haven't been an A$$ to anyone. I'm done posting about this, you guys can go on whining all you want. One might say hobby growth and personal growth can be painted with the same brush. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Oliver, If you change your setting or clean out your inbox so you can receive messages, we can continue this discussion about the finer points of "atta boys" vs "constructive criticism" off-line. I tried sending you a message and it says you can't receive any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, HeavyArty said: Oliver, If you change your setting or clean out your inbox so you can receive messages, we can continue this discussion about the finer points of "atta boys" vs "constructive criticism" off-line. I tried sending you a message and it says you can't receive any. I am not interested in continuing this conversation offline . Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) So be it. I'll propose it here then. Since we will never agree on modeling; a truce. You don't comment on my posts, I won't comment on yours. We each ignore the other. Edited August 27, 2018 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrittMac Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I propose that, since this is the first time I've seen bickering of any sort on the helo modeling thread, we all just throttle back a bit. I have always expected to see a back and forth on the WWII stuff, or anything fixed wing related. Never here though. Honestly, this is one of the only forums in my internet lifetime that I've seen almost uniform appreciation for someone else's work. I suck at modeling. But, I've seen people applaud amazing builds here, and applaud builds that I wouldn't put pics up of. So, bury this crap. Don't make me start putting up pics of crappy models that I would build. I'll promise to use Elmer's glue and Gorrilla brand duct tape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, HeavyArty said: So be it. I'll propose it here then. Since we will never agree on modeling; a truce. You don't comment on my posts, I won't comment on yours. We each ignore the other. Go ahead do what you want, I'll do what i want. Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Whatever, back to modeling and dealing with a few idiots here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I really didn’t want this to end like this friends... lest just build more and let everyone be happy or mad with the work they do.. like I said Gino when you talk about what I did with the “M4” on the black hawk.. this is my therapy to combat depression and believe me I dont give a single (bad word) of what people say.. notice that all my reply to you are with a taste of fun.. Ray thanks for the pictures Oliver keep tha awesome work and all of the other keep modeling have fun have a good one. Edited August 27, 2018 by CharlieUH-1H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 No issues with you Charlie. Keep building your great builds. I will continue to give you pointers that you can use or not, it doesn'y bother me either way. Happy modeling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 18 hours ago, rotorwash said: Great work Charlie! Well GIno, since you are so concerned about accuracy, let's check out some of your Hueys as you invited us to do above. Here's your IDF Anafa build, The stinger on this bird is WAAY off. It does not attach directly to the end of the tailboom and it should be at a much lower angle. You can see the correct position and angle on the USAF UH-1N from the National Museum of Naval Aviation archives. This is UH-1D/H instrument panel, the correct UH-1N/212 panel has a complete set of instruments on both sides like the one i photographed below at the USS Alabama. Your 57th Med Vietnam build. This is the wrong hoist for a Vietnam era Huey. Here is the correct one. From the Army Aviation Museum archives: Your WSMR UH-1 build. Once again, the stinger is incorrect. Her's the real deal from Clyde Seel. You will also note the position light on the end of the tailboom which is missing in your build. You also are missing some details such as the OAT guage and the windshield wiper stops on the front.Plus the strake goes beside the left chin bubble not the right one. Here's a UH-1H from Dan McClinton that shows these issues pretty well. Trust me there's more. One can only conclude you either don't know as much about Hueys as you think or rivet level accuracy only matters if it's someone else's build! I but I bet you think I'm a jerk, don't you. You know what, you're right! Call this a cautionary tale. My suggestion, build more, critique less! Oh and if you really want, you can do this with EVERY one of my builds too. My builds are certainly not without a lot of faults. I try to remember the first commandment of modeling though, HAVE FUN! Unless of course pointing out everyone else's faults is fun for you. If so, achievement unlocked! Ray There are many more but this is a good start. I personally don’t think Gino’s ever been near a Huey. Best at post I’ve read in the 10 years I’ve been on ARC. Well done Ray. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeavyArty said: Whatever, back to modeling and dealing with a few idiots here. Like I said... Edited August 27, 2018 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, HeavyArty said: Like I said... Good luck with the modeling Gino. If you need some references from folks that have been near the real thing, please ask away. Lots of good resources in this forum. Look forward to seeing your next project! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 21 hours ago, rotorwash said: Great work Charlie! Thanks Ray ! Ray those this ARNOLD huey had the Toilet bowl? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 I am doing this restoration just with pictures, and some of the people here like Floyd,Ray and Rodrigo builds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, CharlieUH-1H said: Thanks Ray ! Ray those this ARNOLD huey had the Toilet bowl? I believe she did, Charlie. I can ask Dan Mclinton. He took the pics and painted the artwork. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, rotorwash said: I believe she did, Charlie. I can ask Dan Mclinton. He took the pics and painted the artwork. Ray Thanks Ray, she is gorgeous! , if you get to ask Dan, please let me know,.. Ill like to do this lady.. what is the arnold figure? a dog? or what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 23 hours ago, UH-1Mad said: Charlie can you send me some of your motivation?? I will happily pay for the shipping.. hahahah Shipping cost is a Kitty Hawk Huey lol my motivation is deal and fight this depression that pills cant fight and believe it or not scratch build does.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 21 hours ago, rotorwash said: Here you some inspiration, Charlie. This photo is a UH-1D roof on the assembly line at Bell Helicopter. Ray man this is amazing!!! I Feel like to do it again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, CharlieUH-1H said: man this is amazing!!! I Feel like to do it again! You can just hang onto it till next time, Charlie. I figured you would want it as a reference though. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, rotorwash said: I believe she did, Charlie. I can ask Dan Mclinton. He took the pics and painted the artwork. Ray I think all the US Army Hueys deployed down there had the toilet bowl fitted. Interesting that those markings were painted. I figured just a quick chalk job by a bored crew chief. Edited August 28, 2018 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 54 minutes ago, 11bee said: I think all the US Army Hueys deployed down there had the toilet bowl fitted. Interesting that those markings were painted. I figured just a quick chalk job by a bored crew chief. My bad, John. He did put it on with chalk. Here's a closeup of the artwork from Dan McClinton from 1991: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Charlie, You'll love this artwork from Dan. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, rotorwash said: My bad, John. He did put it on with chalk. Here's a closeup of the artwork from Dan McClinton from 1991: He's quite the artist! Coulda made some decent money doing custom nose-art for the other helos in his unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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