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5 hours ago, CharlieUH-1H said:

Thanks Ray, she is gorgeous! , if you get to ask Dan, please let me know,.. Ill like to do this lady..

 

what is the arnold figure? a dog? or what?

 

Charlie,

  Arnold is "Danger pig" which is what they called the Huey in Dan's unit.

    Ray

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Charlie,

  I asked Dan about Arnold and he said: "All the UH-1s we flew in El Salvador had the full ASE package, to include the ALQ 144 and armored floor panels as well as the ARC-102 longline FM antenna on the tail.."

   I hope that helps.

          Ray

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38 minutes ago, rotorwash said:

Charlie,

  I asked Dan about Arnold and he said: "All the UH-1s we flew in El Salvador had the full ASE package, to include the ALQ 144 and armored floor panels as well as the ARC-102 longline FM antenna on the tail.."

   I hope that helps.

          Ray

Thanks my friend Ray,

questions

any picture of this?

armored floor panels as well as the ARC-102 longline FM antenna on the tail.."

 

 

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1 hour ago, CharlieUH-1H said:

Thanks my friend Ray,

questions

any picture of this?

armored floor panels as well as the ARC-102 longline FM antenna on the tail.."

 

 

I second this.  Never knew that they developed an armored floor package for the good old Huey.   

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2 hours ago, midnightprowler said:

That floor plating must have added a fair amount of weight.

From Sam Boyer, a former Bell test pilot: "I flew one installed on a Huey II once and it amplified main rotor two per rev to pain threshold levels. Not certain getting shot at could have been as bad."

From Mac McMillan, a current Bell maintenance pilot: "Some of the newer armored floor panels are really nice. They weigh less than the older armor we used in Vietnam and protect better. That said, a Huey II rigged out with armor for Brazil weights considerably more than the stock ship."

    Ray

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6 hours ago, rotorwash said:

From Sam Boyer, a former Bell test pilot: "I flew one installed on a Huey II once and it amplified main rotor two per rev to pain threshold levels. Not certain getting shot at could have been as bad."

From Mac McMillan, a current Bell maintenance pilot: "Some of the newer armored floor panels are really nice. They weigh less than the older armor we used in Vietnam and protect better. That said, a Huey II rigged out with armor for Brazil weights considerably more than the stock ship."

    Ray

Interesting.    Never knew they had armor floor panel in Vietnam.    Thanks for the good info Ray.  

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2 minutes ago, 11bee said:

Interesting.    Never knew they had armor floor panel in Vietnam.    Thanks for the good info Ray.  

Your welcome.  I think Mac was probably talking more about the ceramic armor that was used in the seats.  Or, since he was a Cobra driver about the armor panels in the G model Cobra.

   Ray

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1 hour ago, midnightprowler said:

What does this mean?

It is a term used to define the tracking accuracy of a main rotor blade. Tracking attempts to make the rotor tips travel in the same plane as they make a revolution. When the tracking starts to vary a little "bump" can be felt by the crew of the aircraft. A 1 to 1 rev is a very normal measurement. That is as the blade makes one full revolution the tracking difference makes one feel a bump, gentle, but a bump. What Mr. Boyer is referring to is that the weight of the armor panels affected the travel of the blades for some reason and caused the blades to increase the tracking plane to a level that was uncomfortable.

 

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2 hours ago, Chief Snake said:

It is a term used to define the tracking accuracy of a main rotor blade. Tracking attempts to make the rotor tips travel in the same plane as they make a revolution. When the tracking starts to vary a little "bump" can be felt by the crew of the aircraft. A 1 to 1 rev is a very normal measurement. That is as the blade makes one full revolution the tracking difference makes one feel a bump, gentle, but a bump. What Mr. Boyer is referring to is that the weight of the armor panels affected the travel of the blades for some reason and caused the blades to increase the tracking plane to a level that was uncomfortable.

 

Chris M

Thanks for saving me, Chris!  I really had no idea how to explain that!

    Ray

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Looking forward to more progress images but then always am when your building Charlie. I empathize with you on the reason for building. It's what a wise one at the VA suggested to me as well.

 

All images courtesy Dan 'Dangerpig 13' McClinton -- Just for clarification from the reference I built out when these first were shown, I thought Danger Pig and Arnold 347 were two different ships.

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37 minutes ago, snake36bravo said:

Looking forward to more progress images but then always am when your building Charlie. I empathize with you on the reason for building. It's what a wise one at the VA suggested to me as well. 

 

All images courtesy Dan 'Dangerpig 13' McClinton -- Just for clarification from the reference I built out when these first were shown, I thought Danger Pig and Arnold 347 were two different ships. 

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Thanks for the reference photos!

now I see they are two different ships , I think Dan can clarified this,

do you have more pictures?

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8 minutes ago, rotorwash said:

Danger Pig was the general term they used for the Huey mission in El Salvador as best as I can remember.  So Arnold was a danger Pig as well.

    Ray

Thanks Ray for clearing that up for me. Dan did say he drew a Miss Piggie on another D. I've ypdated my text file for this OP.

 

Charlie I do have the other images Dan had posted as they were unique. Hopefully Dan will hop on to help. They aren't available in the other thread for some reason. I'm not sure how he feels about me posting his images or if they were pulled for possibly another reason.

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Dan meant for them to be shared.  He told me so when he sent them to me.  Her are a few of the ALQ-144 birds he sent me.  I hope he jumps on here as well.  Dan has so many fantastic Huey shots, i honestly get them confused sometimes!

   Ray

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14 minutes ago, snake36bravo said:

Thanks Ray for clearing that up for me. Dan did say he drew a Miss Piggie on another D. I've ypdated my text file for this OP.

 

Charlie I do have the other images Dan had posted as they were unique. Hopefully Dan will hop on to help. They aren't available in the other thread for some reason. I'm not sure how he feels about me posting his images or if they were pulled for possibly another reason.

Maybe if we tell him we are making his helicopter he would like to share the pics,

they will help in case of tail number etc etc

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13 minutes ago, rotorwash said:

Dan meant for them to be shared.  He told me so when he sent them to me.  Her are a few of the ALQ-144 birds he sent me.  I hope he jumps on here as well.  Dan has so many fantastic Huey shots, i honestly get them confused sometimes!

   Ray

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Ray, please share the ones you have my friend if possible

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