Pierre Sacha Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Hi guys, Sorry but this has been bothering me for some time now. I was just wondering how many Kinetic F-16s are in modeler's stashes that have the same mis/short moulded vertical fin as in my kits. I have had both the F-16DJ and the F-16F in my stash with the same short shot problem on the vertical fin. I even requested a replacement from Kinetic but it had the same exact problem. If you look at the vertical fin part with the pitot sensor, look below the pitot and many kits have almost the entire leading edge of the vertical stab missing. I just looked at another review in HS and behold, same exact problem. Initially I thought it was just flash and had to be removed but looking at Viper pictures, there is a narrow panel all along the fin leading edge. I love Kinetic models but the reoccurring problem on so many Kinetic F-16s is interesting. Maybe Kinetic is not even aware of this. How many of you guys have the same short shot fins? Regards, Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 A photo of the problem part would be helpful.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelgänger Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Pierre Sacha said: If you look at the vertical fin part with the pitot sensor, look below the pitot and many kits have almost the entire leading edge of the vertical stab missing. I just looked at another review in HS and behold, same exact problem. Initially I thought it was just flash and had to be removed but looking at Viper pictures, there is a narrow panel all along the fin leading edge. I love Kinetic models but the reoccurring problem on so many Kinetic F-16s is interesting. Maybe Kinetic is not even aware of this. How many of you guys have the same short shot fins? Hi Pierre, Habu 2, above, has just beaten me to it. A good picture of the problema would be awesome, please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paolo Maglio Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 anyway that is not a Pitot sensor but a cover for the lamp that illuminate the air-to-air refueling receptacle 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I actually do have pictures that I sent when asking Raymond for a replacement. I will send them shortly. Thanks Paolo, now I know why there is a kink on the bottom of the "spike" as in the Hasegawa kit - must be the lamp then. In the meanwhile HERE is the HS image I was referring to. Just search for the sprue with the vertical stab parts and on the image you can see that the entire leading edge of the vertical stab is missing below the lamp spike. Regards Edited August 25, 2018 by Pierre Sacha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Dear Pierre as far far as I know the vertical tail has some small flash on the top of the vertical tail which make you feel the plastic is misses on the lower section. We have made some modification some years ago but due to the earlier tooling design, possible the fitting on the tool is starting to worn out, so excess plastic were flash out. My suggestion sand out the excess flash above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hi guys, Sorry if this doesn't work. First time uploading a picture. So here it is. Hope it is clear what I mean. Check the leading edge. Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Sorry, forgot to reduce the canvas.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I bought the latest F-16 boxing (Polish D block 52+). There's some flash indeed but I don't seem to have short shot areas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Echoing Laurent, I just checked my copy of the same kit and found no flash or mold problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Thanks guys, then I must have received two affected kits. Granted, they were early copies. Regards, Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, Pierre Sacha said: Thanks guys, then I must have received two affected kits. Granted, they were early copies. Regards, Pierre Pierre, Drop the email info@kineticmodel.com, we can send you the replacement again. The sprue has been reproduced since we established our own injection facilities, the latest production batch should have no problem. Possible the copy you have was produced sometimes by our own subcontractor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Now that is great service! Thanks Raymond, I will take you up on that. It is only for one kit - the F-16F Block 60 - as the DJ has been built. Much appreciated. Regards, Pierre Edited August 26, 2018 by Pierre Sacha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Raymond Chung said: The sprue has been reproduced since we established our own injection facilities, the latest production batch should have no problem. Possible the copy you have was produced sometimes by our own subcontractor. Interesting. I went back and looked at some of the older releases I have and I did find similar problems on the older releases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I had a look at my Polish F-16D Block 52+ and it has the same short shot on the V-Stab. I'll be sending Kinetic a service request to replace this part. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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