BillS Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I’ve got the KH kit enroute with plans for a Sun Run jet. There are some very nice color pics of these jets out there and I’ve been pouring over them for details. I noticed the anti glare panel is an unfamiliar color of green. Any idea what it is? It ain’t one of the ODs that’s certain. There must be an FS (or whatever it’s called now) reference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobo1953 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 hi billS. i haven't seen the kh rf-101, but if the anti glare looks green, well i can grant you that, sorry, but it must be one of the infinite shades of the elusive O.D. be it f.s. 34087 or 34088 or O.D. ANA613... personally, for thet plane i would choose the f.s. 34088, but i should do some research about before telling it for sure. hope this helps. best ciaos, bobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) From the photos I saw doing a Google search, on the Sun Run jets it almost looks like 34079, a very dark green. Then again, in another photo it was lighter, closer to 34088. I guess it depends on which source you want to use. Edited September 2, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobo1953 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 sorry, but 34079 is the "dark green" used in the s.e.a. camo; unless you're doing the 'nam version with this camo pattern, it wouldn't fit elsewhere. ciao! bobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bobo1953 said: sorry, but 34079 is the "dark green" used in the s.e.a. camo; unless you're doing the 'nam version with this camo pattern, it wouldn't fit elsewhere. ciao! bobo. Yes, I know what 34079 is. I said it "looks like", didn't say it was 34079. I know how difficult it is to determine actual colors from photos. Here's what I was talking about. Here's three photos of Sun Run Voodoos, two of the same aircraft, but in each one the glare panel looks to be a different color. So, which one is accurate? 🤔 Edited September 2, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I'd suggest FS34092. It was used as anti-glare on the F-104's amongst others, and matches the 2 top photos. The last one is probably closer to FS34079, however lighting can trick you and change the appearance of colors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobo1953 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 ok: as seen in the pics i perfectly agree with niels. it's the same green you had on the '104 nose. but on the starfighter it was glossy, and the best match i was able to find is f.s. 14108. sure the pics are very tricky: the difference of light makes changes like the one between the first two and the last photograph, where it looks matt, and definitely tending to O.D. for my starfighter i was definitely satisfied with lifecolor UA 086, f.s. 14108. happy modeling! ciao. bobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 What's interesting is that the 1964 TO 1-1-4 calls for flat black for the anti-glare panel, but they obviously used green on a common basis. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Bobo1953 said: it's the same green you had on the '104 nose. but on the starfighter it was glossy, and the best match i was able to find is f.s. 14108. That's kinda weird, using a gloss color for an anti-glare panel. I would think it kinda defeats the purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Niels said: I'd suggest FS34092. It was used as anti-glare on the F-104's amongst others, and matches the 2 top photos. The last one is probably closer to FS34079, however lighting can trick you and change the appearance of colors I would agree. 34092 looks spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillS Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Thanks for the lively discussion and ideas guys. I was kind of thinking 34092 as well. I broke out my old FS chips to see what else looked sort of close. 34108 struck a note but that’s a wag. Judgeing by the flesh colors in the photos I’d guess that the green in the images is pretty true. One other possibility is a color peculiar to Mcdonell though I kind of doubt that. Who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Which airframe are you going to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillS Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I’m going to do 166, #4. I love all those jets, factory fresh brutes! I’ve built the B and aside from the errors outlined in other threads, I think it was a nice kit with very few seams and gaps to worry with. I slaved the Black Box cockpit in and it was practically a drop fit. I’ll tackle the RF straightaway because I really want a big recce jet from that era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) You might give a look at both 34092, and 34102. Those are close to the colors that the USAF used on their F-4B antiglare panels during the "loaner" days. (and yeah, 34079 and 34102 were SEA colors,,,,,but,,,,,,they had already long been in the FS pallet of colors before SEA was invented, so using them before that is not only perfectly valid,,,,but, also, they must have been used on something, or they wouldn't have been there already to invent the SEA scheme with) Edited September 3, 2018 by Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolay Polyakov Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) Bert Kinzey of Detail & Scale, Inc. provided the following information: In most painting schemes authors/researchers tell us to use the FS34102 instead of FS34258 for both the gear bays and anti glare panels. As for me, FS34102 looks very authentic and you’ll never be disappointed. Another one, from an older publication (and this specification tells to paint it black): Cheers! 😎 Edited September 3, 2018 by Nikolay Polyakov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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