serendip Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 It's coming together Nigel - looks good. What materials do you use to sculp your nose? As said I'd welcome a '48th nose. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, serendip said: It's coming together Nigel - looks good. What materials do you use to sculp your nose? As said I'd welcome a '48th nose. Marc. Hi Marc, Thanks for your input. I am beginning to realise why there are so many issues with these noses. The profile looks different from every angle and direction of sunlight plays a big part. Have you noticed how some photos make the chines invisible yet others make the look like caverns!! The 1/48 will happen I’m sure, it’s just too tempting to not play with.. but.. would you still want to retain all the radar nav area detail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 22 hours ago, Nigelr32 said: Hi Marc, Thanks for your input. I am beginning to realise why there are so many issues with these noses. The profile looks different from every angle and direction of sunlight plays a big part. Have you noticed how some photos make the chines invisible yet others make the look like caverns!! The 1/48 will happen I’m sure, it’s just too tempting to not play with.. but.. would you still want to retain all the radar nav area detail? Yeah Nigel, Amongst others I have noticed the elusive shape of the chines. Not sure what you mean with the radar nav detail but what I listed a week or so back applies to Phase VI and above only so no, I would not retain that - but I may be misunderstanding you. I might take a shot at molding the pre Phase VI nose myself (in 1/48). I'm curious what materials you use to model and mould your noses in. Thanks, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Yeah Marc, you misunderstood me. I meant the lower deck where the Nav Radar guys sit. I use lumps of resin, car body filler and primers. Once I have the rough shape I make a mould so I can finalise the shape in one medium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winnie Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 the downstairs section is commonly referred to as the "Offensive Station", the rear upper deck is "Defensive" and the front id the flight deck... Will bring us all up to the same vernacular Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Winnie said: the downstairs section is commonly referred to as the "Offensive Station", the rear upper deck is "Defensive" and the front id the flight deck... Will bring us all up to the same vernacular Thanks buddy, I could learn something from you every day!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winnie Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 But not tomorrow! for I am done with my shift then, and shall swill beer and scotch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Winnie said: But not tomorrow! for I am done with my shift then, and shall swill beer and scotch! Good man!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) All done.. a sample has been sent to someone to try out.. they will show their work here if it works out OK? The moulding flange will be snapped off, leaving a 30 thou wide line to sand off. Once that is done I'll sell em to any interested parties. So, just late MC and early /late Italeri to do now... Edited August 4, 2020 by Nigelr32 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 22 hours ago, Nigelr32 said: Yeah Marc, you misunderstood me. I meant the lower deck where the Nav Radar guys sit. I use lumps of resin, car body filler and primers. Once I have the rough shape I make a mould so I can finalise the shape in one medium. What I used to do was apply latex to the original part (the nose in this case), build up several layers, pour in plaster of Paris, to sand it to the correct basis shape 'cos it's so easy to work with, apply latex to the plaster of Paris master when you're happy with it and then pour resin into that mould. Works pretty well - in theory anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, serendip said: What I used to do was apply latex to the original part (the nose in this case), build up several layers, pour in plaster of Paris, to sand it to the correct basis shape 'cos it's so easy to work with, apply latex to the plaster of Paris master when you're happy with it and then pour resin into that mould. Works pretty well - in theory anyway. It does always need tweaking and correcting the basic shape but plaster is a fast way to get the basics right, I find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, serendip said: What I used to do was apply latex to the original part (the nose in this case), build up several layers, pour in plaster of Paris, to sand it to the correct basis shape 'cos it's so easy to work with, apply latex to the plaster of Paris master when you're happy with it and then pour resin into that mould. Works pretty well - in theory anyway. Brilliant idea!! i like to make life hard for myself!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I might give this a try myself. I'm not confidant I have all the shape data I need, cross sectional wise especially, but back shaping from Phase VI to pre Phase VI should be a lot easier than vica versa - one would think. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) You could just buy one of mine?? having all the correct cross-sectional data would be great, but, if your kit is wrong all the way down the fuselage what then?? You could make the best rendition of an early radome, but it won’t fit your model!! just my 2cents. Edited August 5, 2020 by Nigelr32 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveV22FE Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:46 AM, Nigelr32 said: We're getting there guys!! This early nose is so beautiful!! This looks SOOOO nice!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 hours ago, SteveV22FE said: This looks SOOOO nice!! Thank you.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 3:06 PM, Nigelr32 said: Nige, that looks bang on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 22 hours ago, Nigelr32 said: You could just buy one of mine?? having all the correct cross-sectional data would be great, but, if your kit is wrong all the way down the fuselage what then?? You could make the best rendition of an early radome, but it won’t fit your model!! just my 2cents. Agreed Nige, but mine's the HPH 1/48 B-52, which I'm planning to backdate to early H. I'm guessing you're refering to the MC 1/72nd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigelr32 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, serendip said: Agreed Nige, but mine's the HPH 1/48 B-52, which I'm planning to backdate to early H. I'm guessing you're refering to the MC 1/72nd? I am referring to the 1/72 kits yes.. however, I may make a early nose for the 1/48 kit? I’m not sure how much demand there would be though?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 20 hours ago, Nigelr32 said: I am referring to the 1/72 kits yes.. however, I may make a early nose for the 1/48 kit? I’m not sure how much demand there would be though?? Yes you mentioned the 1/48 nose. I would guess not much of a market. I think HPH planned to build 1000 and I doubt they sold close to that (I was number 44 in January). If however you threw in z couple of Hounddogs, modified pylons for them, a nice decal sheet and maybe the rear cannon who knows what might happen 🙂 Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkN Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I am not sure if these photos are helpful at this point, but here are several "G" photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkN Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I think that the nose begins to taper almost from where the shadow hits the camo in photo #2, sorta like the sun hitting the highest point on a face, the cheek bone, then it tapers down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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