Hooker169 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Calling @mrvark, @ElectroSoldier and @Raptor01. Any of you guys have a nice clear line drawing of the camo pattern for a D? I've found a few on line but they are less than easy to see. I came across an Academy F-111A for cheap, swapped to TPII intakes and I'm building it as a D out of Cannon for a co-worker. I know the pattern varied between A model and D so the paint guide is useless. This is the best I can find. Thanks in advance, Mike Edited October 9, 2018 by Hooker169 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) The scheme you show is an F-111E from Upper Heyford. You may find some photos from Cannon AFB: http://f-111.net/t_no_D.htm Edited October 9, 2018 by AV O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, AV O said: The scheme you show is an F-111E from Upper Heyford. You may find some photos from Cannon AFB: http://f-111.net/t_no_D.htm I think the pattern should be the same, right? I was reading something Jim wrote on a previous thread mentioning the demarcation on the state-side birds were masked so they’re hard and crisp while the Euro jets were soft and done by hand so that should help. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) According to the pictures, it seems that the general layout is similar but it may slightly change from one aircraft to another : http://f-111.net/t_no_D_files/F-111D-68-0096-524th-TFS.jpg http://f-111.net/t_no_D_files/F-111D-68-0093.jpg http://f-111.net/t_no_D_files/F-111D-68-107.jpg http://f-111.net/t_no_D_files/F-111D-68-0116.jpg Edited October 11, 2018 by AV O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Cybermodeler has diagrams of two versions of the SEA scheme for F-111s. https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-111/f-111_profile01.shtml https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-111/f-111_profile03.shtml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Cool, thanks guys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Mountain Home Idaho F-111A’s scheme were a little different. They were the original A models from Harvest Reaper, Combat Lancer deployments to Vietnam. Colors are the same, pattern is a little different and I believe the only ones with a black anti-glare panel. I think the Cannon D models had a harder edge on the pattern like the Aussie C models, Upper Heyford E’s & Lakenheath F’s had a softer edge. SAC Dark Vark pattern had a soft edge. Funny enough I remember overspray and some grit in the paint in places, something you would not want on a model! 😂 John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan_CZ Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Sorry for hijacking this question, I bought the Italeri kit F-111A (Hasegawa kits are very very rare and expensive) and I am thinking if the black color used for undersurface is gloss, matt or satin (similar to revell 301)? I saw some pictures of real planes partially on internet, partially in the books and it seems, at least for me, it is satin. Thank you for the advice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jan_CZ said: Sorry for hijacking this question, I bought the Italeri kit F-111A (Hasegawa kits are very very rare and expensive) and I am thinking if the black color used for undersurface is gloss, matt or satin (similar to revell 301)? I saw some pictures of real planes partially on internet, partially in the books and it seems, at least for me, it is satin. Thank you for the advice No worries. That's a good question, I sprayed my belly in Model Master aircraft interior black which is flat but I can add a satin coat later if need be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 11:26 PM, Mstor said: Cybermodeler has diagrams of two versions of the SEA scheme for F-111s. https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-111/f-111_profile01.shtml https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-111/f-111_profile03.shtml Except for the belly colour (grey or black), these two schemes look similar. (Isn't it the same with only the legend change ?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 I forgot to get back and thank you guys. I used, for the most part, the first reference I pictured above along with various actual aircraft pictures. 68-0180 the F-111D I’m modeling doesn’t have many pics on the web but reading back through the ARC archives I was able to cobble together the scheme with some interesting tidbits. Such as the stateside -111’s pattern were generally masked when painted at depot and Europe -111’s were hand sprayed hence the hard vs soft edge between colors. Also, behind the WSO canopy the tan patter sometimes resembles a part of the female anatomy and is often “enhanced” by depot technicians or crew chiefs. ( I added that feature but toned it down, it’s a family show for cripes sake) Below shows what I came up with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DET1460 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The A models had a slightly different scheme to the D, E and F. And don't forget, the D models had two HUDs. DET1460 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Sorry for the dark pictures, these are off my IPhone. Basically its the Academy kit OOB with the exception of Ozmods wheels (completely worth it), some cockpit photo etch. I scratched nose gear taxi and landing lights and extended the nose strut by almost 1/8 inch. I also raised the main gear a bit so it doesn’t sit so low. Thanks for the help gents(you know who you are) Edited October 19, 2018 by Hooker169 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Its deoends on the time. As a rule all US based jets had a gard edge demarkation line while Lankenheath started soft and ended hard, Upper heyford always soft... but ecen them it wasnt a wavy line it just wasnt a perfectly straight line. The finish was satin yes on the E models Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Wow, great looking ‘Vark! Not enough of these built in my opinion. Do F-111s have their wings extended when parked? Space wise, I’d like to have mine with the wings swept with canopy open. Possible? Edited December 28, 2018 by jester292 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Can be either all the way back or forward or half way between. Cant show you any pics until i get home and then it will be had until i unpa k my computer after a house move but anything goes wing wise, its the rest of the moving parts that have to match thats the trick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillS Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Interesting topic. In the 70s thru 90s time frame, i never saw any usaf tactical jet with a hard edge camo including cannon’s ‘111s. I was in TAC and AFSC in a flight test unit AT Holloman. We had two ‘’111s of our own and I saw the cannon jets frequently. They were generally kept freshly painted/touched-up like all TAC jets of that period. On recovery wings were left forward with high lift devices extended to facillitate inspection. That was a very common configuration on the ground. In fact, we rarely swept the wings except for hangering in a tight space. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Yes it was common to follow tge check list and leave it like that but at Lakenheath while parked outside their TAB-V it wasnt unknown to have the wings back half way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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