afspret Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Did the USN or USMC ever consider following the USAF lead and adopt a version of the F-4E? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) I have often wondered about this. I am a phantom phan, but not an expert. I have read as much as I could find about the phantom, but I do not remember reading anything about the Navy or Marine Corps considering the E model. Hopefully someone with more insight will see this. Someone in Navy procurement must have at least evaluated the idea on some level. Edited December 14, 2018 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I don't believe they considered it. If they did then why move to upgrade and procure the -N and -S models? Especially since they were slatted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeltc Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Wouldn't visibility be an issue on the deck of an aircraft carrier with the longer nose of the E version? I am thinking this because of how they shortened the nose on the ill fated F-111B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collin Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Everything comes down to funding. Cost of re-engineering, cost of flight test and qualification, cost thrown at a Navy Phantom with a gun Vs the F-14 Tomcat project that was spoiling up (and had a gun already). Collin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, joeltc said: Wouldn't visibility be an issue on the deck of an aircraft carrier with the longer nose of the E version? I am thinking this because of how they shortened the nose on the ill fated F-111B. Not so much. They did fly Marine RF-4Bs from carriers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tailspin Turtle Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 For what it's worth (not much), I was told when I was at McDonnell back when the E was in development that the cg change caused by the gun was unacceptable from a carrier-basing standpoint (takeoff and landing speed). My guess is that the smaller radar dish required for adding the cannon also didn't have the detection range desired for the Navy Phantom's raison d'etre, which was fleet air defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tailspin Turtle Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Linda Thresher said: I totally agree that everything depends on funding and money. Recently, I came across one article where was considered this question. If you want to read that article, you can go to the website and find it in the blog section. Hope you find it interesting and you will find out something new. It’s a trap! The link is to an advertisement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Kurt H. Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The link in question was good when it was posted, I seem to remember reading it and finding it useful. It looks like it has since changed. 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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