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Can any compressor be used for airbrushing models?

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Anthony,  I agree completely that having the driest air is the best.  Water traps(the way that I do it),  a vapor condenser (as you mention), or alternate gas sources like a CO2 or Nitrogen tank are all good ways to mitigate the slop.

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16 minutes ago, ytsejam87 said:

Water traps(the way that I do it), 

Don't be stingy, please explain how you do it. I live in the Philippines, water vapor is ALWAYS a problem. While my compressor has a built in vapor trap, it still is unable to prevent all the moisture from spitting out the tip, I need to find a way to clear out the water as close to my brush as possible. Do you have a not so secret method of stopping the water from exiting my brush and ruining my work?

 

Anthony

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2 hours ago, Stalker6recon said:

Don't be stingy, please explain how you do it. I live in the Philippines, water vapor is ALWAYS a problem. While my compressor has a built in vapor trap, it still is unable to prevent all the moisture from spitting out the tip, I need to find a way to clear out the water as close to my brush as possible. Do you have a not so secret method of stopping the water from exiting my brush and ruining my work?

 

Anthony

 

There are moister traps that connect directly to the airbrush. I think that is what you need. I used to have the same problems in Florida. Even though I had a trap at the compressor connection, moister would still condense in the line. A moister trap at the airbrush should help remove the moister in the line.

https://www.amazon.com/AW-Airbrush-Filter-Compressor-Moisture/dp/B016DAQIOM/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_60_tr_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=X6CCG9QS9AAMWZWQ12XW&th=1

 

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What Mstor said!

 

Plus, to help out even more, inline after my compressor and before my airbrush lines, I have one of these:  

https://www.amazon.com/PointZero-Airbrush-Compressor-Regulator-Water-Trap/dp/B004KNAHF6/ref=sr_1_8?crid=15R15EZ5IMUBB&keywords=iwata+moisture+trap&qid=1555345352&s=gateway&sprefix=iwata+moisture+%2Cbeauty%2C144&sr=8-8

 

then 

on my airbrush hose before the quick disconnect,  I have the iwata version of what mstor posted  (it was part of my iwata eclipse purchase at hobby lobby here in the states) https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Airbrushes/HP-CS-Eclipse-Airbrush-Kit/p/848

 

Placing the QD on the output side of the hand held moisture trap allows me to swap airbrushes for different applications.  my eclipse for fine painting, and my neo (with a 0.5 needle set)for single coat thicker paints like duracote.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to seem stingy.  I know i mentioned to photograph my setup, but given my work area, I cannot get a decent picture. I will try again to take a snapshot.

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25 minutes ago, Mstor said:

  

There are moister traps that connect directly to the airbrush.

Now that is what I am talking about! Thanks a million! In the Philippines, more water than air comes out of my brushes, it's that humid here. This is exactly what I need. Unfortunately this page/item does not ship to the Philippines, but it gives me a jumping off point to find one that does, probably via ebay (can you say "rip off" in Chinese?)

 

Anyway, thanks a bunch!

 

Anthony

10 minutes ago, ytsejam87 said:

Sorry, didn't mean to seem stingy

Not at all brother, that "stingy" comment was in jest. I was just wanting more info is all, I have a weird personality, what I call humor, others call nuts or pompous, depends who you ask. Anyway, what you linked is even more in line with what I think I need. I bought a compressor on Amazon a few years back, and it is one of those generic no name compressors (I am perpetually poor, mostly because my wife and I rescue cats and dogs, but mostly cats). Anyway, the kit included FOUR airbrushed, but I also bought a paasche (however you spell it) airbrush, not really knowing if it is any good. Bad part, it has hose links that don't fit my compressor, so it has sat in a box for years not being used. I have not found the right coupler yet, but I haven't looked really hard either. It is only now, after nearly a decade of waiting that I can FINALLY start building again. Anyway, the compressor is the exact same as other brand names, but I don't trust the regulator at all, it is vague anyway, I was hoping to find an online regulator that is adjustable to the half pound, but I won't be greedy, as long as it is accurate.

 

Do you like the setup you have? Would just the online regulator/water trap be enough? (remember, I am broke, like $12 in my account BROKE!) or do I need to suck it up and get the filter AND the regulator/filter combo?

 

Thanks guys, this is a huge help for me!

 

Anthony

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All good!  You and your wife have a good heart rescuing pets, i commend you both for that!

 

Everything i have read has been "moisture traps closer to the airbrush are better".  

 

However, given an eye on the budget, I would try the bigger trap/regulator (two functions in one unit) first, and see if that setup sputters spraying onto newspaper.  I would also try this on days of highest humidity, to see what happens.  If the trap/regulator doesn't work, you can either limit your paint times to when it is drier, or add the trap that attaches to the airbrush. 

 

I live in "amish country" here in PA, which, i am sure does not have anywhere close to the humidity of the Philippines.  So, with my advice goes the caveat, "your mileage may vary'!

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5 minutes ago, ytsejam87 said:

humidity of the Philippines.  So, with my advice goes the caveat, "your mileage may vary'! 

Let's put it this way, it's one AM here and the current humidity is 81%. By noon tomorrow, it will be up to around 90+%. Or in other words, my sweat sweats!

 

Probably 5 in line filters and I will be OK. Now for the scary part, I have found literally dozens of inline filters on ebay, for a few bucks and free shipping, guess that won't hurt to try, after all, it is just a few dollars each, and I mean less than three dollars with free shipping, so I am going to give it a try.

 

Do you by chance know the size of the paasche hose line coupler? I really want to get that working, the free no name brand brushes seem to work OK, but maybe that one is truly better and will show that when I get it running. I need to order the parts online, but have no clue what the size of coupler they use.

 

Thanks,

 

Anthony

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Forgot to add, as for rescuing cats, it has been a pleasure and a curse. We have lots of successful rescues, including one cat with cancer (she got expensive quick) but lots of heartbreak as well. We just lost our home after 5 years living there, and we are unable to keep all the cats indoors anymore (they literally destroyed our last home, felt bad, but we paid to get it cleaned up) so now we are adopting them out, and we have dozens of cats that need homes, it sucks, but that is what we have to do. I also thought about the last 5 years, how much money and heartache we have been thru, and decided that I want to regain a life, which means no more rescuing. It is only because we got booted from our last home, that I am able to build models again. In the last house, the cats would have destroyed any kit I even tried to build. Now I have a secure room and no cats inside, which is why I am on a frenzy trying to find the gear I need to build properly.

 

We are keeping a dozen cats, but the rest have to go to new homes, just hope it happens fairly quick, we actually lost one last Friday, hit by a neighbors car. It was an accident, but I asked them to drive slowly, and they got their knickers in a twist and got real defensive about it, now they drive past at 50mph, a war is brewing between us, and we only just moved in. We lived in the same neighborhood for 5 years and never lost a cat. In the new house less than a month, and we already had to bury one, sucks, she was one of my girls too, her name was Selina, but we called her "birdy" based on her low mass, very light kitty, but plump, it was weird.

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On 3/29/2019 at 2:05 PM, Stalker6recon said:

 

Edited by Joe Hegedus

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When I was teaching airbrushing I used a compressor more often seen in auto spray shops... Which is exactly where I got it.
Mostly because of the large tank gave a large amount of constant air.
Couldnt hear the compressor while in the studio I had set up, but yeah, with the right fittings anything can be used... Even a fire extinguisher will provide mobile compressed air.

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On 4/15/2019 at 1:12 PM, ytsejam87 said:

All good!  You and your wife have a good heart rescuing pets, i commend you both for that!

 

Everything i have read has been "moisture traps closer to the airbrush are better".  

 

However, given an eye on the budget, I would try the bigger trap/regulator (two functions in one unit) first, and see if that setup sputters spraying onto newspaper.  I would also try this on days of highest humidity, to see what happens.  If the trap/regulator doesn't work, you can either limit your paint times to when it is drier, or add the trap that attaches to the airbrush. 

 

 

I have the trap/regulator that was linked a few posts up, and live on Long Island, in NY, so our humidity level is pretty close to what you see up in PA.  

 

As a regulator, it works.  I have nothing to compare it to, so I cant say how well... but, it does work. 

 

As a water trap, it works, but it can be better.  I do not have an additional inline trap on my airbrush hose, and I have noticed that on occasion, the brush will spit a little water.    However, I have not experienced any bad tendencies due to this, or at least I cant tell if I have or have not.   Before each session, I do blow quite a bit of air through the brush before I load it up and begin painting.  I'm wondering if that has some sort of effect.  Could it be that the condensation forms in the hose between sessions, and is simply blown out before I begin, not re-forming until the hose is idle for a few days?  

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