Petarvu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Is there any aftermarket available for Tomcat glove vanes in 48? I am considering making them as extended on early F-14 1/48 I am starting.... Cheers P Edited January 20, 2019 by Petarvu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 They are essentially flat boards that pivot out, would not be hard to scratch build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 As habu2 said, they are easily replicated. Get the appropriate thickness sheet styrene and essentially cut them into triangles. Then, simply glue in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrew.deboer Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 You could find someone who has a Hobby Boss kit and isn’t using theirs. The kit has them molded closed, but also includes the vanes. I was happy to discover that in my sole HB tomcat kit whilst planning an aerial display of a TARPS mission going at warp speed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) A.M.U.R.Reaver has PE Wing Gloves; 2 versions, actually... Which is not what was asked for. Edited January 21, 2019 by dnl42 I'm a knucklehead... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, dnl42 said: A.M.U.R.Reaver has PE vanes; 2 versions, actually... That link looks like wing gloves, not glove vanes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, habu2 said: That link looks like wing gloves, not glove vanes. Dang. Read the words but had the gloves in mind and found that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Did they have a slight bevel on the leading edge towards the upper surface? -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 no. Zero aerodynamic profiling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 One thing to note is that the vanes are narrower towards the front and get wider towards the end... Picture shown for educational purposes only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 And note the trailing edge is curved (in plan view) with a radius equal to the glove length. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Hey Darren, new addition to the Steel Beach line... Aside from looking different on a static model, were they opened on the ground for inspection? Regularly or just if a gripe came up during flight? This, obviously before they disengaged the mechanisms later on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CJ Martin Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I can't recall ever seeing them deployed on deck while I was in my Fleet squadron (VF-33) in the mid-80s. I did see them out while at Pax in the late 80s, that was during the testing that led to them being deactivated. We did some wild stuff to the test bird, an Alpha...they wanted to move the CG as far aft as possible. We removed pretty much the entire AWG-9 radar, antenna, transmitter, power supplies, receiver, RMO, syncronizer...all of it. They even put lead weights back where the ALE39 buckets went. Then they went out and flew high speed low level flights and melted a lot of the paint off. The bird looked like a damn elephant, the paint heated up and then sagged after landing. That was SD202 in the tactical paint scheme. Wish I had pics of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Thanks Jeremy. When deployed, would they always open fully or was it determined by the airspeed? -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I don't know the answer to that for certain, but I believe they were a function of the speed. The faster the airspeed, the more they deployed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, GreyGhost said: Thanks Jeremy. When deployed, would they always open fully or was it determined by the airspeed? -Gregg A clue here : http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1014173 Edited January 23, 2019 by AV O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Center of pressure (Cp) moves aft as aircraft speed increases, especially when supersonic. The glove vanes deployed incrementally with increased speed maintain proper Cp balance. What I don't know is how/why they determined they weren't needed later in life. Certainly a lot of engineering and wind tunnel work went into the design to determine they were needed in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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