Dave Williams Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 8 hours ago, MoFo said: And the wrong size. And the wrong engine. Never claimed the F-15 exhaust was suitable for the B-1B. Just making a point about the Verlinden PE featherless exhausts in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelgänger Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 5:18 PM, Dave Williams said: , as well as being unrealistically thin. Dave, seems to me that you have never seen what those exhaust look like up close and personal... 6 hours ago, Dave Williams said: Just making a point about the Verlinden PE featherless exhausts in general. It was such a bad thing that you had gotten rid of those jewels, 'cause they were the most exact representation of the real things. Will prove to you what I'm speaking about. As said before, none of the resin bits to replace the plastic exhausts on the 1/48 F-15 kits have come close to being as thin as the KA Models bits, which I acquired sometime in the late past year. Until then, every other resin manufacturer which resins I saw I didn't like for being much too coarse and lacking definition. Here you've got a picture of both the Verlinden PE bits and the new KA Models ones, to show you that the diametres on both exhaust are exaclty the same, and not the wrong size, as somebody has posted above. The Verlinden PE bits itself bring a very good close-up of the exhaust of an F-15, where you can clearly see that the things are quite thin when watched closely. Check how thin those thingies are on the new KA Models bits and check to the right of the picture for reference to the Verlinden photograph. And finally, the detail on the PE bits is even better than on the new resin ones. The look on the Verlinden PE bits once installed are the closest I've seen to the real thing; they look exactly like the featherless exhausts on the F-15. Françoise Verlinden devised those having one of the Eagles sitting at Bitburg, so I don't think he could have ever been wrong. Too bad 'cause they're OOP and very rare to come by. Now, may I see your points for what you've stated above, please? Cheers, Onigiri Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) I built those Verlinden exhausts back in the early 90'S. They were my very first project using photoetch and were a complete pain in the a$$. I was grateful for Hasegawa issuing Kit P-21 (F-15E) with their rendition of the cans. Then all I had to do was scratch build the tangential pylons for the CFT's. We are truly in the golden days of our hobby my friends. Edited February 17, 2019 by Mr Matt Foley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 The B-1 uses a different engine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelgänger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: They were my very first project using photoetch and were a complete pain in the a$$. Not the correct set of photoetch to start with, Matt. You can imagine I started with some simple 1/48 P-40E photoetch flap set (or was it Hurricane?), and I completely fuc**d up... Anyway, the most complex PE set of all I tangled with so far has been the Metallic Details 1/48 B-29 flaps; it scares the living sh*t out of me. Humongous pieces to fold up, and a zillion PE parts to glue on them once folded. Instructions call for CA glue, but I think some assemblies might as well benefit from some soldering instead. What kind of soldering does one use for PE anyways...? Edited February 18, 2019 by Doppelgänger Inbound phone call - unavoidable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 You want complex PE? Try some of the Flightpath 1/32 PE for F-15 exhausts, or the ones for Tornado flaps. I had those sets and started the flaps and gave up. Never even tried the exhausts. They were beautiful though. Some of Aber's PE for 1/16 armor subjects is enough to make a grown man cry. And then there is the ultimate in masochism that is 1/350 and 1/700 naval ship PE. We have it easy . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, Mstor said: You want complex PE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Ah, yes. But that's a whole other level of PE madness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doppelgänger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The B-1 uses a different engine. (Oh, my God; it hurts!). Cheers, Onigiri PS: Hi, Mark! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Doppelgänger said: The B-1 uses a different engine. (Oh, my God; it hurts!). Cheers, Onigiri PS: Hi, Mark! Dunno what's so amusing as he is correct. The B-1 uses F-101-GE-102. The General Electric F110-GE-100/129 that other aircraft use are a derivative of the 101 but no other aircraft uses it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Hi Onigiri Whiskey, Onigiri has a strange sense of humor. We must make allowances Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlCZ Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I'm waiting and hope a Revell give in this new re-release a resin parts for engines... And nothing...P.E. only... I have last re-box in bottom of my kit stack... Barracuda made many AM for "Bone," but they are relative expensive.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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