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Geoff M

Olive Drab and Neutral Gray

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Probably been discussed here before but I've been trying to figure a good color match to these.  These had to be among the most widely used paints in WWII but it is very hard to find anything out about these.  I know that they faded and manufacturers had their own formulas and batches could vary, but you gotta start somewhere. 

Start with Olive Drab.  I've been using Model Master paints for decades.  They have MM1711 Olive Drab 34087 and MM2050 Olive Drab ANA 613, same paints?  Then they add to that their versions of Faded and such.  The period standard for USAAF aircraft paint was ANA.  Most references claim ANA 613 as Olive Drab.  The confusing part is trying to come up with a good FS equivalent.  I have sources stating 34087, 34084 and 34064.  This one isn't so hard.  Model Master Olive Drab looks like what I think olive drab looks like. 

Now Neutral Gray is another story.  First the references I have don't even mention an ANA # for neutral gray.  FS references are all over the chart...36173, 36118, 36231 etc.  And WWII Neutral Gray is not to be confused with modern USAF Neutral Gray FS36270. 

I guess the short question is, what do you guys use for Neutral Gray?

 

I have just started to switch over to acrylics and I have found Mission Models paints to work very nice.  I was surprised how well an acrylic metallic paint could look.  I am still adjusting to these.  Again, they do not list anything like a WWII neutral gray.  The closest I can find is a British Grey, Ocean gray or something.  I don't have it in front of me.  Thanks for any help or opinions.   

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For Neutral Gray I mix black and white, either 50-50 or 40-60 (black to white).

 

MM1711 and 2050 are not the same shade. I like Mr. Color No. 12 Olive Drab 1 for OD 41.

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thanks for that I will check it out

 

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I've read that FS 36176 is a good match. In the Modelmaster line this is quite a bit darker than their FS 36270 "Neutral Gray."

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On 4/10/2019 at 10:40 AM, DonSS3 said:

I've read that FS 36176 is a good match. In the Modelmaster line this is quite a bit darker than their FS 36270 "Neutral Gray."

FS 36270 is not the WW2 era color, it's a modern color found on F-16s etc. Really too bad Testors chose to name it "Neutral Gray" -- it's a source of constant confusion.

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