Cameron Lynch Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 So a couple of months ago I purchased a bottle of Mission Models Polyeurethane Intermix after watching a couple of videos on youtube. I opened the bottle and used a little with a small project. Last week I went to use it again, but the whole bottle had turned into a congealed white sludge. It looks kind of like milk that has gone off, but with the texture of drywall patch putty. I'm a little annoyed that I bought a bottle of this stuff and got one use before it went bad. I sent a message to Mission Models, but never got a reply. Anyone else have this happen with their bottle of Mission Models Poly, or is this just a bad one? Cameron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Had it happen to two of my bottles, one which had been opened, and the other still had the seal over the bottle mouth intact. About the same time too. Mine was almost solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I have had this as well, the last time was with a new bottle, made little marbles when I mixed it with thinner or paint. 😖 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 Yeah. An $8 bottle of cottage cheese. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I have heard it reacts badly to cold storage. I have had some for over a year and it stays in my basement and i have not had a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, boom175 said: I have heard it reacts badly to cold storage. I have had some for over a year and it stays in my basement and i have not had a problem. I live in South Florida. Pretty sure cold storage wasn’t the issue. I’ve put the most recent bottles in ziploc bags to see if that helps them last. Edited April 1, 2019 by Dave Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 I received an email from Mission Models this afternoon. Here is the email in total"Hi Cameron Ploy is a temperature sensitive product. When it ships from our warehouse it is in perfect shape. It can not be allowed to freeze or be exposed to high heat. We also do not know how retailers handle the product once received. There is nothing wrong with the product but some chemicals in the hobby or in industrial applications are temp sensitive like that of super glue and other resins. Sincerely Mission models "So basically they're saying that at some point between their warehouse and when I purchased it at the LHS it probably froze, and I'm out of luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lockheed2004 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I had the same issue. I'd used about 1/2 the bottle. It was fine one night, went to use it the next and it was like cottage cheese. The response from Mission Models sounds like a generalized statement that doesn't really address the issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Not sure I understand the supposed process. It freezes, and then at some point later, after working fine for weeks or months, it just suddenly clumps up in a short period of time? One would think it would either solidify right after freezing, or noticeably deteriorate over time, not just go belly up instantly at some random later time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Cameron Lynch said: I received an email from Mission Models this afternoon. Here is the email in total"Hi Cameron Ploy is a temperature sensitive product. When it ships from our warehouse it is in perfect shape. It can not be allowed to freeze or be exposed to high heat. We also do not know how retailers handle the product once received. There is nothing wrong with the product but some chemicals in the hobby or in industrial applications are temp sensitive like that of super glue and other resins. Sincerely Mission models "So basically they're saying that at some point between their warehouse and when I purchased it at the LHS it probably froze, and I'm out of luck. That's not exactly being sensitive to customer issues, is it? "Eff you, not our problem". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chukw Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I think I'll pass- entirely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spruemeister Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Disappointing to here this. Especially for us northern customers who use northern distributors and have orders sitting on trucks and in mailboxes at well below freezing for periods of time beyond our control. If this product cannot freeze at all, then it’s not going to work for a majority of the continental US. Have a few bottles but have not tried to use it yet. I need to go look at them. Rick L. Blaming the the user at the end of the supply pipeline for this issue is an odd choice. Edited April 2, 2019 by Spruemeister Adding comment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lockheed2004 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, chukw said: I think I'll pass- entirely. Other than the minor issue I experienced with the poly, they perform well as a paint system. I have moved away from enamels towards MM paint whenever I can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I have a bottle that I bought in June through mail order that remained sealed until a couple of weeks ago. When I opened it I found it had gelled. My LHS just started to carry MMP, so it was off to buy another bottle. I was going to write Mission Models to see if I could get my money back, but after reading their FAQ I figured that bad bottle was a write off. Reading this thread confirms that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
is it windy yet? Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I know my local shop had to throw away paint that froze during shipment. I have the intermix, a few paints and primers. My hobby room can get cool during the winter, maybe as low as 15C without a portable heater. No problems with the paint or intermix chunking up, or becoming unusable. Not the biggest fan of the overall performance of the paint system though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I’ve actually had a really good experience with the poly. I store mine in the basement here in Colorado and it hasn’t dried up or gone bad at all. I’ve had mine for about nine months and it is about halfway empty. No problems with their pints or primers or poly for me. I am a convert and love how MM Paints perform- here are two recent projects using Mission Models paints: Edited April 5, 2019 by Falconxlvi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FrankC Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Happened to me too Cameron. I have been complaining some about it on the mission models fan page on face book, but for banned. They don't want to hear anything other than great product. It's not that great.. too expensive and the polly is mandatory.. I am done with mmp. I won't buy anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The poly additive is not mandatory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I have some 36170, poly, & thinner I want to try. Aren’t you supposed to mix up only what you want to use & not contaminate the source? My bottles are stored at room temp. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Raptor01 said: I have some 36170, poly, & thinner I want to try. Aren’t you supposed to mix up only what you want to use & not contaminate the source? My bottles are stored at room temp. John They have some great tutorials on You Tube and on their website has some tips on as well. Trick is to use their thinner and it's going to look a lot thicker than what you are used to. I usually go with 10 drops of paint, 2-4 drops of thinner and say 4 drops of poly. I spray at 10-15 psi usually around 12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tmmatthews Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I had the same issue and essentially the same response "sometimes the poly 'kicks over' if stored in high temps" except mine was always inside at climate-controlled, room temperature. Still love the paints but I've started storing the poly inside a drawer in another part of the house...we'll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I had the same issue with the bottle I had last summer. Lost the A/C for a few days. When I received my paints and went to use them I noticed two things. First the reducer smelled and felt the same as the Createx 4012 High Performance Reducer. Tested it out and had no issues. The Poly also seemed to be the same as Createx's 4030 Intercoat and Mix Additive. Tested that as well with no issues. So if you have a Hobby Lobby near by and do not want to order the MM stuff go get those items from Hobby Lobby. Don't forget to use the 40% off online coupon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 8:00 AM, Dave Williams said: Not sure I understand the supposed process. It freezes, and then at some point later, after working fine for weeks or months, it just suddenly clumps up in a short period of time? One would think it would either solidify right after freezing, or noticeably deteriorate over time, not just go belly up instantly at some random later time. Yeah, seems pretty suspect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seafuryfb Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 The older acrylics like poly s and gunze suffered from being subject to extreme temperatures, just some stayed in liquid form but would perform no so well , like not drying, going lumpy when mixed with thinner. And become my like jelly. Its why I don't think mail order is best for ordering paint .especially if it is allowed on aircraft, not all cargo holds are pressurised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Any new news on the poly? I checked my bottle yesterday it is hard and useless. Did they come up with a new formula or does anyone here have a substitute they can recommend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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