CWILL1117 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 How do they stack up to one another? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan S Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Neither is great, but the Kitty Hawk is the best. I've enjoyed the Kitty Hawk building so far, but lots of errors in the instructions. Some basics to watch in the Kitty Hawk kit: 1) Attach the intakes prior to assembling the fuselage halves. 2) Many parts in the ejection seats don't have receiving pins, but build up really nicely with only a small amount of effort. 3) The HUD may be too tall to fit under the canopy. Mine was okay, but I shaved the base of the plastic base that holds the HUD. 4) The small intakes on each side of the spine show installation after the fuselage halves are together. They need to be put on before the fuselage halves are together. 5) The engine mounts are strange, they have extra pins or don't align correctly. Really study the instructions and you should be safe. There's a Su-34 building group on FB that has lots of helps. Edited April 25, 2019 by Jonathan S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonathan S said: Neither is great, but the Kitty Hawk is the best. I've enjoyed the Kitty Hawk building so far, but lots of errors in the instructions. Some basics to watch in the Kitty Hawk kit: 1) Attach the intakes prior to assembling the fuselage halves. 2) Many parts in the ejection seats don't have receiving pins, but build up really nicely with only a small amount of effort. 3) The HUD may be too tall to fit under the canopy. Mine was okay, but I shaved the base of the plastic base that holds the HUD. 4) The small intakes on each side of the spine show installation after the fuselage halves are together. They need to be put on before the fuselage halves are together. 5) The engine mounts are strange, they have extra pins or don't align correctly. Really study the instructions and you should be safe. There's a Su-34 building group on FB that has lots of helps. I have copied and pasted these into a doc so I have them when I start mine. Thanks Jonathan S! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CWILL1117 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonathan S said: Neither is great, but the Kitty Hawk is the best. I've enjoyed the Kitty Hawk building so far, but lots of errors in the instructions. Some basics to watch in the Kitty Hawk kit: 1) Attach the intakes prior to assembling the fuselage halves. 2) Many parts in the ejection seats don't have receiving pins, but build up really nicely with only a small amount of effort. 3) The HUD may be too tall to fit under the canopy. Mine was okay, but I shaved the base of the plastic base that holds the HUD. 4) The small intakes on each side of the spine show installation after the fuselage halves are together. They need to be put on before the fuselage halves are together. 5) The engine mounts are strange, they have extra pins or don't align correctly. Really study the instructions and you should be safe. There's a Su-34 building group on FB that has lots of helps. Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to have the link to the said FB Group? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan S Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 another one just hit me: Either (I can't remember) the fan blades at the back or the front show to install after the engine is assembled, but wont fit once assembled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bikerider Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Faceboook SU-34 Support https://www.facebook.com/groups/284617025599276/?ref=bookmarks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The Kitty Hawk is far superior in shape, costs less, includes a lot of stores and with patience, builds into a very nice example of the Su-34. The Facebook group is of help and some of the modellers on there have built some stunning Fullbacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Agree i have multiple of both and ill be building the KH kit..the new KH boxing with brass gear legs and burners is brilliant. KH nailed the nose shape and blend into the cockpit etc. A very good effort grab the release with the metal legs they are great... Edited June 11, 2019 by dehowie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CWILL1117 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 6:35 PM, dehowie said: Agree i have multiple of both and ill be building the KH kit..the new KH boxing with brass gear legs and burners is brilliant. KH nailed the nose shape and blend into the cockpit etc. An very goid effort grab the release with the metal legs they are great... Does the kit build to weigh too much for the normal legs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I think its more that they are nicely detailed and not split that makes the brass legs a solid option..along with the metal burner cans.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 13 hours ago, CWILL1117 said: Does the kit build to weigh too much for the normal legs? Not at all. Mine weighs 0.6 lbs (0.272 kg ) with 2 resin KAB-1500 bombs, 2 resin R-77 and resin wheels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 6:35 PM, dehowie said: Agree i have multiple of both and ill be building the KH kit..the new KH boxing with brass gear legs and burners is brilliant. KH nailed the nose shape and blend into the cockpit etc. An very goid effort grab the release with the metal legs they are great... So, you have a Kitty Hawk boxing of the Su-34 that actually shipped with the new metal gear? or did you buy the metal gear separately? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Has anyone heard of any colored PE being in the works for the Kitty Hawk kit? There is plenty of PE for the Hobby Boss kit, but virtually nothing for the Kitty Hawk, which I find strange. I know most here prefer resin cockpits or just painting up the kit one if good enough, but I like my colored cockpit PE and it surprises me that the usual suspects, Eduard and Dream Model, have ignored the KH kit thus far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Mstor said: Has anyone heard of any colored PE being in the works for the Kitty Hawk kit? There is plenty of PE for the Hobby Boss kit, but virtually nothing for the Kitty Hawk, which I find strange. I know most here prefer resin cockpits or just painting up the kit one if good enough, but I like my colored cockpit PE and it surprises me that the usual suspects, Eduard and Dream Model, have ignored the KH kit thus far. Mark, have you tried fitting the HB set to the KH? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Mark, have you tried fitting the HB set to the KH? Nope. Don't want to spend the money on the HB set if I don't know it will fit. If push comes to shove I may get the Zoom set as it is cheaper. I really wish that Dream Model would make a set. The colors they use are closer to the real thing. Eduard are notoriously off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Here we go Fellas: http://metdetails.com/catalog/metalic-details/aircraft/148/mdr4836-cockpit-set-aircraft-model-su-34 Already out of stock I'm afraid. I managed to check my email this morning at 05:30 and jumped on one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the heads up. They had four in stock. Just grabbed one. Looks real nice. A little concerned that it is for both the Kitty Hawk and the Hobbyboss kits. Hopefully there will be no fit issues. P.S. Looks like they have some nice new sets for the Kitty Hawk Su-35 too. Those will have to wait. Gots no more moneys. Edited May 29, 2019 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mstor said: Thanks for the heads up. They had four in stock. Just grabbed one. Looks real nice. A little concerned that it is for both the Kitty Hawk and the Hobbyboss kits. Hopefully there will be no fit issues. P.S. Looks like they have some nice new sets for the Kitty Hawk Su-35 too. Those will have to wait. Gots no more moneys. The website shows it installed on the Kitty Hawk Su-34, so I think we'll manage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Matt Foley said: The website shows it installed on the Kitty Hawk Su-34, so I think we'll manage. As usual, I miss the obvious I really like that they got the two canopy fans. I was wondering how I was going to manage scratch building those. They are such a prominent and visible feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
picknpluck Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I just snagged one. The site said 7 in stock. Well...6 now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 hours ago, picknpluck said: I just snagged one. The site said 7 in stock. Well...6 now. So...you "plucked" one from the site eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
picknpluck Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Only after I “picked” it out 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 My Cockpit arrived today. I'll compare it to the kit pit tomorrow and give my thoughts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
picknpluck Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I got my cockpit set from Metallic Details today. Here's what it looks like: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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