Flankerman Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Good luck with getting those curtain rails (parts 17 and 18) to conform - and glue - to the INSIDES of the curved cockpit glazing... The set looks quite comprehensive - but tricky to apply - especially those curved etched parts. Happy Flankering. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Flankerman said: Good luck with getting those curtain rails (parts 17 and 18) to conform - and glue - to the INSIDES of the curved cockpit glazing... The set looks quite comprehensive - but tricky to apply - especially those curved etched parts. Happy Flankering. Ken The brass is very thin and perhaps a touch of annealing will be in order. But you are right Ken, this will be a hold the breath moment so we don't mess up a canopy. A dip in future will be in order with the proper "no fume" super glue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: The brass is very thin and perhaps a touch of annealing will be in order. But you are right Ken, this will be a hold the breath moment so we don't mess up a canopy. A dip in future will be in order with the proper "no fume" super glue. Some of those parts are supposed to represent long tube structures. I am thinking about trying to replace them with plastic tubing. Never thought PE was very good at representing wires or tubes, pipes, hydraulic rams, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The runners for the blinds is actually a sort of channel section with quite a large groove for the ends of the blind...... I would have thought resin would better represent it? Note also the curved blind laying folded on top of the coaming - I don't think this is represented at all?? I did mine in 1/72 using plastic card 'arches'....... Here's another view of the real thing......(without the coaming-top blind) Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Nice Shots there Ken. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Here's the parts I was referring to. You can see a large hydraulic cylinder and two smaller rods to each side. BTW, anyone know where one can find cockpit pics from the Su-34? They seem to be rather scarce. Besides this one, I have found only three or four other decent pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 There are a few here: https://www.pinterest.com/scalemodelvideos/su-34-cockpit-canopy/?lp=true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Matt Foley said: There are a few here: https://www.pinterest.com/scalemodelvideos/su-34-cockpit-canopy/?lp=true Thanks. Unfortunately, most of those were from an early demonstrator, but there were a few real nice closeup screen grabs of a production airframe. I never checked Pinterest. That site drives me nuts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zactoman Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 There are some pretty good cockpit shots in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659XmZZZYgk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Zactoman said: There are some pretty good cockpit shots in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659XmZZZYgk Thanks Zactoman. I think most of the cockpit pics I have are screen grabs from that video. I grabbed a few more. Would be nice if the Russians would let someone do a "walkaround" of the cockpit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Mstor said: Would be nice if the Russians would let someone do a "walkaround" of the cockpit. In search of the famous on-board toilet! Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
konbini Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Is the toilet an actual area of the airplane with facilities, or just a flask with absorbant chemicals in the corner? Curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The latter - just a flask. You can see it in the video that Zactoman posted - at 6:55. The back story is that it was rumoured for years that the Su-34 had a full sit-down toilet in a compartment behind the crew seats. This photo did the rounds as proof that it existed.... The photo appeared on various - mainly Chinese - websites captioned as the 'Su-34 Toilet'. The photo is actually MINE - taken in 2002 at Star City near Moscow - showing the toilet from the MIR space station. It was lifted from my web page here........ and became 'proof' that the Su-34 had a sit-down loo. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CWILL1117 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Flankerman said: The latter - just a flask. You can see it in the video that Zactoman posted - at 6:55. The back story is that it was rumoured for years that the Su-34 had a full sit-down toilet in a compartment behind the crew seats. This photo did the rounds as proof that it existed.... The photo appeared on various - mainly Chinese - websites captioned as the 'Su-34 Toilet'. The photo is actually MINE - taken in 2002 at Star City near Moscow - showing the toilet from the MIR space station. It was lifted from my web page here........ and became 'proof' that the Su-34 had a sit-down loo. Ken LOL I too fell for that... I swear I thought I'd seen a picture of the toilet and I was literally about to say "Yea, it's a toilet" in this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Hos about a pentry and a berthing? 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) On 6/16/2019 at 8:40 AM, Flankerman said: Deleted Edited June 22, 2019 by Mr Matt Foley Deleted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CWILL1117 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Since we have Flankerman here, what are the common air to ground/air to air load outs that Su-34s carry? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan S Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 23 hours ago, Flankerman said: The latter - just a flask. You can see it in the video that Zactoman posted - at 6:55. The back story is that it was rumoured for years that the Su-34 had a full sit-down toilet in a compartment behind the crew seats. This photo did the rounds as proof that it existed.... The photo appeared on various - mainly Chinese - websites captioned as the 'Su-34 Toilet'. The photo is actually MINE - taken in 2002 at Star City near Moscow - showing the toilet from the MIR space station. It was lifted from my web page here........ and became 'proof' that the Su-34 had a sit-down loo. Ken Thank you for something definitive. I always figured was the case as the cockpit door half opened into the nose gear wheel bay. Didn't think this door could be opened during flight so figured no room for a sit down toilet. Again, for all you Su-34 builder fans on Facebook, check out our build group https://www.facebook.com/groups/284617025599276/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Russian firm Temp models released Khibiny set for Su-34 in two scales: 1-72 - https://tempmodels.ru/en/catalog/models/1_72/seriya_3d_profi_72/kreb_khibiny/?fbclid=IwAR1XJXMYRVw7oswth_cNSV3w46ivkS3bVOOK0p6ft0qVPUaPjF5QVy0gd6E 1-48 - https://tempmodels.ru/en/catalog/models/1_48/seriya_3d_profi_48/kreb_khibiny_2/?fbclid=IwAR1BgZH3hJjnzb_mFtrkfuTqrG_r-FM_wPWj5ikzDmm3sOb9a4cpBfZkiv4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 hours ago, kotey said: Russian firm Temp models released Khibiny set for Su-34 in two scales: 1-72 - https://tempmodels.ru/en/catalog/models/1_72/seriya_3d_profi_72/kreb_khibiny/?fbclid=IwAR1XJXMYRVw7oswth_cNSV3w46ivkS3bVOOK0p6ft0qVPUaPjF5QVy0gd6E 1-48 - https://tempmodels.ru/en/catalog/models/1_48/seriya_3d_profi_48/kreb_khibiny_2/?fbclid=IwAR1BgZH3hJjnzb_mFtrkfuTqrG_r-FM_wPWj5ikzDmm3sOb9a4cpBfZkiv4 Very nice. I wonder where one can purchase these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mstor said: Very nice. I wonder where one can purchase these? I think you have to go direct with them. Also, I did communicate with them a month or 2 ago and asked them about cockpit and/or pylons for the kitty hawk kit. The individual who replied said they would "think about it". In the meantime of course we now have the Metallic Details cockpit items. It would still be nice to see others develop more product for the Kitty Hawk and it looks like Tempmodels have the expertise to make that happen if they choose to do so. Edited June 22, 2019 by Mr Matt Foley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caughtinthemiddle Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Mstor said: Very nice. I wonder where one can purchase these? Order directly. My order arrived in a few days (to Poland) without any problems. The pods (1/72 ones) look the part, also got the big set of ejection seats and most of them are very nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: I think you have to go direct with them. Also, I did communicate with them a month or 2 ago and asked them about cockpit and/or pylons for the kitty hawk kit. The individual who replied said they would "think about it". In the meantime of course we now have the Metallic Details cockpit items. It would still be nice to see others develop more product for the Kitty Hawk and it looks like Tempmodels have the expertise to make that happen if they choose to do so. Thanks. Definitely will get the pods once I clear up cash flow issues (I've been a bad boy this last month ). I agree with you, need more "stuff" for the KH Su-34. I know many don't like them, but I'd like some color PE for the cockpit. I dread trying to hand paint instrument panels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mstor said: I dread trying to hand paint instrument panels. Just model it with the blinds drawn........ Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Flankerman said: Just model it with the blinds drawn........ Ken Brilliant! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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