1/48 - Lockheed (T)F-104G/J/DJ/S-ASA-M Starfighter by Kinetic - released - F-104C in September 2021

[Mstor]

1 hour ago, DACO Products said:

 

May I ask why? It's full with mistakes (I remember vaguely I counted a long time ago more than 25 mistakes) and there's a much better and 100% accurate decal set for German Starfighters already for several years on the market...

 

Danny

DACO Products

 

Oh man, I forgot about your set.  Problem is, if I buy it, I will have to buy more 104 kits. I need to win the lottery.

[skyhawk174]

I will have to go to Danny's site and see what I can pick up. I already have almost all oh his books too. 

Also I seem to recall I have in my decal stash a Spanish F-104 set of decals. Repli something I think. I will have to dig it out.

[11bee]

2 hours ago, DACO Products said:

 

May I ask why? It's full with mistakes (I remember vaguely I counted a long time ago more than 25 mistakes) and there's a much better and 100% accurate decal set for German Starfighters already for several years on the market...

 

Danny

DACO Products

May I ask you to provide details?  I’m not an expert on Luftwaffe -104’s but I’ve always heard complimentary things about the VP product.   I get that you are trying to plug for your products and am fine with that.  But if you are going to slag someone else’s product to do that, at least provide specifics.  

[DACO Products]

13 minutes ago, 11bee said:

May I ask you to provide details?  I’m not an expert on Luftwaffe -104’s but I’ve always heard complimentary things about the VP product.   I get that you are trying to plug for your products and am fine with that.  But if you are going to slag someone else’s product to do that, at least provide specifics.  

 

No problem to do so, only I have to find my copy of this decal (or can someone scan his copy in a high resolution and email it to me?)
Out of my head and what I remember: JBG32 emblem with NATO symbol mirrored for other side without re-mirroring the NATO symbol, several emblems are in a wrong size, wrong blue colour(s) used, incorrect stencils,...

 

Danny

[sierrascale]

22 hours ago, Mstor said:

 

That's one set I really wish Victory Models would re-release.

Wonder why they haven't re-released this, the A-4 and the USAF/NASA F-104 sheets. Would be like printing money.

[sierrascale]

20 hours ago, DACO Products said:

 

May I ask why? It's full with mistakes (I remember vaguely I counted a long time ago more than 25 mistakes) and there's a much better and 100% accurate decal set for German Starfighters already for several years on the market...

 

Danny

DACO Products

But the DACO Luftwaffe Starfighter sheet is not available?

[Mstor]

5 hours ago, sierrascale said:

But the DACO Luftwaffe Starfighter sheet is not available?

 

It is. Go to Danny's site...

http://www.dacoproducts.com/

In the top frame, click on "Astra Decals", then in the left hand frame scroll down until you see "German F-104G Decals". Click on that and the central frame will display all the various scales and options available.

 

Danny, you've got to get rid of the frame version of your website and update it to something a bit more modern. It makes linking to specific products difficult as you then lose the top and left side frames.

[habu2]

Why do I feel like this thread has been hijacked???

[JeffreyK]

9 hours ago, sierrascale said:

Wonder why they haven't re-released this, the A-4 and the USAF/NASA F-104 sheets. Would be like printing money.

The USAF sheet has got some interesting things on it and I'd welcome a re-release, but it's flawed as well - the wing top "USAF" for instance barely fits onto the wing, let alone in the correct position...

J 

[DIO]

Are there any intentions to release a Greek F-104G?

[Raymond Chung]

19 minutes ago, DIO said:

Are there any intentions to release a Greek F-104G?

 

Yes. please keep checking out. 

[HomeBe]

And the RoCAF LOROP variants? Just the nose to change.

http://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_ROCAF_LOROP_H.Prins.pdf

 

 

 

Have a good week M. Chung.

 

V.P. 

Edited September 23, 2019 by HomeBe

[Raymond Chung]

RF-104G ? why not 

 

The entire F-104 series are planned. We just release it according to our schedule. 

Edited September 23, 2019 by Raymond Chung

[Mstor]

5 hours ago, HomeBe said:

And the RoCAF LOROP variants? Just the nose to change.

http://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_ROCAF_LOROP_H.Prins.pdf

 

 

 

Have a good week M. Chung.

 

V.P. 

 

Oh my, Pinocchio? That's one funny looking 104.

[Don]

3 hours ago, Mstor said:

 

Oh my, Pinocchio? That's one funny looking 104.

Nah...this is Pinocchio:

 

http://www.douglasdc3.com/pinoch/pinoch.htm

 

Happy modeling!

[Mstor]

12 minutes ago, Don said:

Nah...this is Pinocchio:

 

http://www.douglasdc3.com/pinoch/pinoch.htm

 

Happy modeling!

 

I stand corrected

[MoFo]

Well, Raymond DID say they're releasing all the variants of the F-104, so I guess that means technically Kinetic will have to tool (most of) a new 1/48 C-47 as well!  

[Lex]

On 9/23/2019 at 9:27 AM, Raymond Chung said:

The entire F-104 series are planned. We just release it according to our schedule. 

TF-104G aswell?

[Raymond Chung]

2 hours ago, Lex said:

TF-104G aswell?

It would be too waste if we just make the F-104G 

[HomeBe]

New AMMO by Mig Jimenez boxing from the original Kinetic kit with new decals & packaging.

Sources: 

https://www.migjimenez.com/en/preorder/2259-f-104-g-starfighter-8432074085041.html

https://www.facebook.com/MigJimenez/posts/2941934985820189

 

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Introducing the first ever #Aircraft #ModelKit from #AMMO: the F-104 G #Starfighter. A 1/48 #ModelKit with brand new tooling for exact detail, #Decals for seven different markings, #PhotoEtch detail, #Clearparts and multiple options including two types of ejection seats, and two types of engine nozzles.
Also included are previously unpublished #Photographs of the restoration process of the plan on exhibit at the museum of Ala 12 Torrejón; and an #Exclusive #Interview with an active duty Ala 12 F-18 #Pilot.
This iconic aircraft is available at a special #Discount during the #Preorder period; discover more here:
https://bit.ly/2CO6snw

 

 

Of interest: the decals sheet and its 7 original schemes (see herebelow)

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Compare AMMO pics with Kinetic sprues kit pics...

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

V.P.

[HomeBe]

Hasegawa commercial strategy emulates Kinetic? Release, re-release, rebox, re-re-release, re-re-box... 😎

New boxing - ref. K48090 - Lockheed F-104G Starfighter KLu/RNethAF "Historical Fighter Volkel"

Source: https://www.facebook.com/Kineticmodel/photos/a.150625411771245/1408906709276436

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48090 - Limited Edition for Netherlands F-104G - Exclusive with Glow2b in Europe - Working with Historical Fighters - Historische Vliegtuigen Volkel

 

 

Volkel in the early eighties, a scan from one of my slides.

 

 

V.P.

Edited December 8, 2019 by HomeBe

[B.Sin]

Raymond, 

    When can we expect to see a 

F-104C?

 

Brad

[dai phan]

Hi all

 

I find this thread very interesting and informative. I would like to have this question answered. The new Kinetic F104 versus old Hasegawa 104 with DACO set. Cost is no object. Which one do you prefer to build? Thanks Dai  

[dai phan]

I have done some more research and I noticed DACO does not provide the parts so the right and left fuselage gun panel/avionics bays could be displayed open. Just seemed so odd in this ultimate enhancement set. Other less ambitioned companies even include the parts for these to be displayed open.  Dai 

Edited January 27, 2020 by dai phan

[habu2]

If cost is no object you buy both kits....  😎