Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Trying to figure out a tail correction for a 1/72 F-105G. I have the D&S book on the 105 and was surprised to find the Trumpeter and Monogram 1/72 tails fit the line drawings almost exactly, making them all undersized, supposedly. Is there a better reference on the tail difference? Tough to really discern the real difference from airframe photos, and the D&S book only points out an increase of 15% tail area, not the most helpful of references to a project such as ours.... Edited June 6, 2019 by Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Sorry to say this, but NEVER rely on "scale drawings" by anyone, and never think that a kit is "off" because it doesn't match so-and-so's scale drawings. You'll only drive yourself to incurable obsession. Go ahead and compare a kit to photos of the actual aircraft and make your own decisions on how the model should look. You may not get it right, but that's the way most line drawings are created. Unless there are really obvious errors in the kit, you're probably better off believing the kit manufacturer's rendition of the aircraft than mixing in a conflicting third party. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Yep, I know the drawings aren't gospel, but figured on them being a tad better than that.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viking73 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I have read that the Trumpeter F-105 tail is the correct height for the two-seat F/G models but too tall for the single seat D. Just my $.02 worth. -Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, viking73 said: I have read that the Trumpeter F-105 tail is the correct height for the two-seat F/G models but too tall for the single seat D. Just my $.02 worth. -Derek What?! I'd heard the opposite....in fact when I posted pics of my Trumpeter 1/72 EF-105F (rebuilt from G) someone pointed out my "mistake" of leaving the tail too small. That's the point of this thread, to rebuild a Trumpy tail for my G to go with the F.... so is it really ok as is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viking73 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy said: What?! I'd heard the opposite....in fact when I posted pics of my Trumpeter 1/72 EF-105F (rebuilt from G) someone pointed out my "mistake" of leaving the tail too small. That's the point of this thread, to rebuild a Trumpy tail for my G to go with the F.... so is it really ok as is? This is where I read about the "D" tail being too tall - it was on the LSP Forum concerning the 1/32 Trumpeter "D" kit. So I wonder if this error was carried over to the 1/72 kit? I would assume so but you know how that goes... https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/40546-f-105d-tweak-list/ It's near the bottom of the fuselage section. -Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 When it comes to 1/72 kits, if you can get over the raised panel lines, the Monogram F and G, and the Revell D (basically a scaled-down Monogram) are even better than the Trumpeter kits. They're not as easy to find as they have been out of production for decades, but if you peruse eBay or other sources with old kits, you can usually find them at bargain prices. And they have the tails right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Paul Boyer said: When it comes to 1/72 kits, if you can get over the raised panel lines, the Monogram F and G, and the Revell D (basically a scaled-down Monogram) are even better than the Trumpeter kits. They're not as easy to find as they have been out of production for decades, but if you peruse eBay or other sources with old kits, you can usually find them at bargain prices. And they have the tails right. I concur. Even with raised panel lines, the Mono & Revell Thuds are a class above the Trumpeter ones. And the underwing stores included in the Trumpeter kit look odd to me. IIRC the snakeyes ( or was it the droptanks?) are wrong in length. Edited June 8, 2019 by JackMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Okay, how's this? Not exact, but a close correction on the Trumpy kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On pg27 of the reader in this manual the D tail is shown with dimensions: http://www.avialogs.com/viewer/avialogs-documentviewer.php?id=4186 but other info on the F is there as well. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn said: On pg27 of the reader in this manual the D tail is shown with dimensions: http://www.avialogs.com/viewer/avialogs-documentviewer.php?id=4186 but other info on the F is there as well. Jari Wow Jari thanks for that. That is some good info in that doc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 When Monogram came out with their F-105G in 1/48 I liked it but really wanted an F-105D. So I could not wait and went about converting my G kit to the D. I found out that the tail of the D was smaller in chord so I cut it back. I think I did use some sort of drawings or was it by eye. It was so long ago I forget. However I think I missed the height of the tail. I will have to go check and see what I did. Still have the model although it did have an incident when it fell off of the shelf. Too bad I did not take pics back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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