AlCZ Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 At last ! Hip hip hurray ! https://www.themodellingnews.com/2019/09/yes-its-new-tool-48th-scale-b-17g-in.html?m=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mawz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Hopefully they fix the nose they got wrong in 1/32nd scale, or we’ll still be better off with the Revellogram kits for those unaware of it, the HK fuselage is cylindrical while the real thing is flattened on top. This affects the IP and windscreen as well as the forward upper nose section shape Edited September 21, 2019 by mawz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evilmedic13 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Someone said in the fb post that those issues were resolved in this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Oh my god. Never thought I’d see this day. I don’t see where it says series but if HK’s history follows on this we’ll have a few more kits coming in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 If anyone finds a pre order, post a link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'll do one if I like the way they do the overlapping panels. Glad they went with an early G , but rather have seen an F Glt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mawz Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, ChesshireCat said: I'll do one if I like the way they do the overlapping panels. Glad they went with an early G , but rather have seen an F Glt They did early and late G’s and an E/F in 1/32, I’d be shocked if they weren’t planning to do all 3 in 1/48 as well I’d also bet that the panel work will be the same as their 1/32 models Edited September 22, 2019 by mawz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Quote They did early and late G’s and an E/F in 1/32, Not quite true... HK released a 1/32 late B-17G, then a 1/32 B-17E/F and then re-released the late B-17G with different markings. You'd never be able to see overlapping panels in 1/48 unless it was so out of scale that would make it look like a shingled roof. A prototypical 0.040" thick skin overlap will be 0.00083" (that's 83/10,000 of an inch) in 1/48 scale...you'd be hard pressed to even feel that with your fingertip. From the CAD images I've seen, the panel lines will be recessed with recessed rivets. I gave the CAD images a cursory look and they did address the "issue" at bulkhead 3 that plagues the 1/32 kits. They got a lot of things correct for an early B-17G but a few things they got wrong...like the radio room gun in a K-6 mount. That was not an early B-17G installation. The correct installation would be what I refer to as the "hula-hoop" gun mount in the radio room. As was the case in the 17F, the radio room plexi would be removed and the gun slid rearward into firing position. You can just see a part of the hula-hoop in the image below. They also omitted the dual structure in the radio room...dual as in circular fuselage with the turtledeck on top. They added the wingtip vents.... Those pesky wing tip vents were not on early B-17G's either...those will need to be filled unless you're modeling a field modified ship that had the vents installed. I just hope they've trimmed the fat out of the fuselage that is present in the 1/32 scale B-17G (and E/F too). In that scale she's much too fat in the waist (actually the entire fuselage is out of whack) than she should be. The tail wheel installation is pure fiction as evidenced by the CAD images. All-in-all, I think this will put a big dent to the market share enjoyed by the Revellogram kit which has been the only G in the 1/48 market since 1975...I received one of the first kits off the production line for Christmas that year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 hours ago, mawz said: They did early and late G’s and an E/F in 1/32, I’d be shocked if they weren’t planning to do all 3 in 1/48 as well I’d also bet that the panel work will be the same as their 1/32 models I've seen them in the box, but honestly never looked inside. Comming from HK, it will be nice! Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Well I have decals for Thunderbird in 1/48 so I would like to do that one. From my little research it is an early G but I will have to dig further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Very late F's had the chin turret. Know of none kitted. Be a nice nich! Glt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Seraph Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- ! I was expecting it to be priced a little under USD 200.-... to hell, if done correctly (the nose, please Please PLEASE get it right) I will certainly get one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caughtinthemiddle Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Silver Seraph said: I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- ! I was expecting it to be priced a little under USD 200.-... to hell, if done correctly (the nose, please Please PLEASE get it right) I will certainly get one. The MSRP of the 1/32 kit is USD 330, I'd be surprised if only 50 bucks less is asked for the quarterscale kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Silver Seraph said: I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- ! I was expecting it to be priced a little under USD 200.-... to hell, if done correctly (the nose, please Please PLEASE get it right) I will certainly get one. 😲 Wow! I'll be keeping my 5 Monogram/Revell F/G/Visible/Promodeler boxings at that price, they all together cost me a lttle more than half that MSRP. Edited September 24, 2019 by Charlie D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stalal Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If that is the price for a 1/48, then thank you very much for your effort. I cant buy it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Silver Seraph said: I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- ! I was expecting it to be priced a little under USD 200.-... to hell, if done correctly (the nose, please Please PLEASE get it right) I will certainly get one. Say what? Ok I am out then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 5:47 PM, Silver Seraph said: I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- ! I was expecting it to be priced a little under USD 200. And welcome to the "cost" of kit technology and new kits in 2019. I suspect that most modelers, when faced with that sort of sticker shock, are going to opt for the venerable Revellogram kits. Economically, it only makes sense. While a new kit with ALL the bells and whistles, is oh so attractive, the reality is that all of that comes with a huge cost. I am not sure if I will pick one up or not at that price. Probably not, unless I am able to get it on the used circuit or find an online retailer slashing the price as a loss leader. I am not saying it won't be worth it, I am simply saying that it just goes way above my pain threshold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 3:47 PM, Silver Seraph said: I think I saw the MSRP circulating over Master194, USD 280.- No, you did not. The post: Quote Lets predict a big box full ≤ 280 €? Is just some guy throwing out a prediction. It is NOT an MSRP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WymanV Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) "> Edited September 25, 2019 by WymanV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Seraph Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 hours ago, MoFo said: No, you did not. The post: Is just some guy throwing out a prediction. It is NOT an MSRP. I think he edited the post, what I read wasn't this "prediction". Anyway I am happy if this new release from HKM turns out to be more accessible. With the todays increase in everythings cost and apparent great level of detail, one could not reasonably expect a new tech 1/48 B-17 priced under USD 100, but USD 280 felt like we really had to deserve it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Seraph Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Wow, I like this MSRP of USD 118 much better 🤤 !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waza Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) wow wow I guess that the old one I have just started to re scribe and rivet will now get placed aside with all the resin and photo etch Edited September 25, 2019 by waza left out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) And at an MSRP of $118, that sound you hear in the background is every Revellogram (save for two or three) being rapidly listed for sale on the used kit market. I am shocked, I expected an MSRP of at least $150-160. Since the the street price will probably be roughly $100 or so, I can spring for at least two or three over time! Good on ya HK, now just make it! Edited September 25, 2019 by madmanrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 17 hours ago, WymanV said: "> I wonder why they selected those two airframes? I have some pics of both. I'll come back to this later Glt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 3:21 AM, madmanrick said: And at an MSRP of $118, that sound you hear in the background is every Revellogram (save for two or three) being rapidly listed for sale on the used kit market. I am shocked, I expected an MSRP of at least $150-160. Since the the street price will probably be roughly $100 or so, I can spring for at least two or three over time! Good on ya HK, now just make it! While that price sounds much more appealing, I'll still be keeping my F, G, ProModeler, and 2 visible Forts... I've got 1/48 B-17G as a saved eBay search, will be intersting to see if suddenly there is a flood, may pick up a few more if I can get them cheap. Still looking for an original box art in good condition to cut out and put on the wall in the garage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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