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Reports of a B-17 crash at Bradley in CT. It must be Nine o Nine. Injures are being reported

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Saw images....all that was left was the tail. Bradley closed---flights rerouted to RI. Sad.jon

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Just saw her a couple of weeks ago in Plymouth, MA.   She was immaculately restored, just a beautiful bird.   

 

They are now reporting at least two fatalities.  

 

Sad day.....

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I saw a photo of the B-17 taken from a chopper. The plane looks to be a total loss. Reports are that the plane crashed when trying to land. I saw that plane this past Summer in the Chicago area. It was an incredible looking plane. Just beautiful. I considered taking a ride in it, but the price was too high.

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Thoughts and prayers to those affected.

 

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3 crew and 10 pax onboard.   Those poor passengers were on the flight of a lifetime.  I’ve had a couple of friends go up on those flights, they said it was amazing.    

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1 hour ago, 11bee said:

I’ve had a couple of friends go up on those flights, they said it was amazing.

I did the B-24 a while back, and yes it's beyond words how awesome it was.  It gave me a whole new appreciation for what my Grandfather and all those aircrew went through on missions in those aircraft.  

 

Sad day for all

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Ugh, so tragic!  I took my family to see her in Fort Collins about two months ago and it was so awesome and inspiring to be up close to the mighty B-17.  My prayers are with all those affected...truly heartbreaking.   

 

Steve

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What a tragic loss.  Back in 1995 I got to walk-thru 9-0-9 and the B-24 'Witchcraft' when they came to Charleston, SC and was really amazed at the level of restoration work done on both aircraft.

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"The aircraft was a 74-year-old Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress, military serial number 44-83575 (variant B-17G-85-DL) with civilian registration N93012.[1] The aircraft was painted to represent a different B-17G,[2] the 91st Bomb Group's Nine-O-Nine,"

 

The above ^^^ from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Boeing_B-17_Flying_Fortress_crash

 

 

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I wonder if they'll keep flying them until there is none left.

 

Maybe someone will stop before then.

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I have real concerns about allowing those planes to continue flying with passengers. My concern is regarding maintenance of the engines. OEM parts for those engines have not been made in a long, long time. I guess that it is possible to scavenge  older engines for parts, but how safe is it to use old parts to replace old parts?  I do not think that those planes are safe. 

 

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I have real concerns about allowing those planes to continue flying with passengers. My concern is regarding maintenance of the engines. OEM parts for those engines have not been made in a long, long time. I guess that it is possible to scavenge  older engines for parts, but how safe is it to use old parts to replace old parts?  I do not think that those planes are safe. 

 

Johnny, I wil have to say I hear you and I kinda agree with you, but how safe is rock climbing? How safe is paragliding? How safe is surfing? I get it, I do. I want them grounded for a different reason. I don't want anymore of these precious aircraft to be lost. Not just he people. But for preserving the history of it. ONE THE OTHER hand I LOVE Seeing them fly and if I had enough money to go up in one of them I'D JUMP at the opportunity.. Not that I'd fit in them. 

 

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Johnny, I wil have to say I hear you and I kinda agree with you, but how safe is rock climbing? How safe is paragliding? How safe is surfing? I get it, I do. I want them grounded for a different reason. I don't want anymore of these precious aircraft to be lost. Not just he people. But for preserving the history of it. ONE THE OTHER hand I LOVE Seeing them fly and if I had enough money to go up in one of them I'D JUMP at the opportunity.. Not that I'd fit in them. 

 

Excellent point, took the words right out of my mouth. My father flew a B-17 once, in 1944 before he was shipped

out to Guam then Okinawa. He was training in Riverside Ca. I believe, the pilot told him to sit in the co pilot's seat

and instructed him. He only flew it for a short bit, told me he swore the wings were flapping! He was a corporal who

ended up on a bulldozer building air strips for the bombers going to Tokyo. Must of been one helluva ride and one he

never forgot. Let's save the precious few that are left.- jon

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I agree with both of you. The few remaining, intact, air worthy B-17's  need to be saved for future generations. 

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In my opinion, as long as there are non-flyable examples around still (and there are) then why shouldn't they fly the ones that can fly? Save for future generations to what, see them sitting in a building somewhere? Kind of hard to appreciate what they were like in their full glory in the skies when you're seeing only films and examples sitting around collecting dust. Again, just my opinion, but as long as there are people willing and able to keep these birds going and traveling around for all to observe them do what they were designed to do, then I say keep them going. Obviously safety needs to be a concern of course. But if it's possible to fly them....then fly them!

 

Bill

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wrt carrying  passengers, their liability insurance premiums must be sky high (no pun intended). 

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I would think that their insurance will be cancelled due to the accident. If not, it will now be unaffordable. 

 

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Curious, why not build exact reproductions like the did for the Me-262. All new parts and

unstressed metal with same radial engines but new. Just a thought.- jon

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I would think that their insurance will be cancelled due to the accident. If not, it will now be unaffordable. 

 

way to be positive dude...

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