LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Revell-Monogram F-16 ADF vs Academy F-16A/C vs. Hasegawa F-16 C Block 30 Edited October 4, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 First, the Revell-Monogram F-16. I am not sure if this was originally the Monogram or Revell when the kit was originally released. This is represents the Block 15 ADF version. On the plus side, I like the attached main wings and the shape seems right. On the downside, the cockpit has almost no detail with decals to represent the instruments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 As you can see, I have partially started construction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Decals include Oregon ANG and North Dakota ANG. I will probably build it with the Rough Riders artwork, strictly out of the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Photo of the installed cockpit. Edited October 4, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 for decal instruments, those don't look too bad. At least not from your photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) I used a wash on the decals to tone them down a bit. Also, the forward panel (not shown) is not so good. The ejection seat is detailed enough. Edited October 4, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Parts trees and decals for the Academy Kit. Appears to be very similar to the Hasegawa. Has a great deal of ordinance included. Edited October 6, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Hasegawa instructions, decals. I will be using the Two Bobs Dairyland Vipers sheet depicting the 60th Anniversary for the Wis ANG. One nice touch is two complete canopies, tinted and clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Parts Trees Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Quote Comparison of Academy and Hasegawa cockpits. The Academy consists of decals, which were very fragile ( the instrument panel part disintegrated. The Hasegawa has raised details that paint-up nice and are reasonably close to a F-16 block 30. Both seats are inferior to the Revell seat. This is the Academy. Edited October 6, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Hasegawa. Edited October 6, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) More work on the Academy. Notice the terrible gaps between the fuselage and wings. Edited November 16, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 First, the Revell-Monogram F-16. I am not sure if this was originally the Monogram or Revell when the kit was originally released. It is the Revell kit with added parts for the ADF. The Academy consists of decals, which were very fragile ( the instrument panel part disintegrated. The decals in the Academy kit (this release) are crap. Brittle, color bleeding, and the insignias and refueling markings are black not the various grays. They are only for the “C” tail, not the “A” tail. Suggest using the Hasegawa decals on the Academy kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 I think I will use the Hasegawa decals on the Academy as you suggested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 After preliminary painting. I used model master enamels, dk gray 36118, Lt gray 36375 and neutral gray for the radome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Revell. On the plus side, I really like the molded wings, as both the Academy and Hasegawa had prominent seems to deal with. It also has the correct slightly downward angle of the missile rails on the wingtips. On the downside, it has a curious mix of raised and recessed panel lines. Overall fit was not bad. One difference of note among the three is that inside the main landing gear bay, the Revell has a “half hourglass” shape, whereas the other two get narrower front to back in a straight line. I’m not sure which is correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Revell underside showing the hourglass shape in the main gear bay. The arrestor hook is a separate piece on the Revell but molded into the fuselage on the other two. Edited November 16, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Academy. The overall fit of this kit was ok, but certain areas it was terrible. The main wing joints are weak. I’ve had to reglue them 3 times and the seam keeps wanting to open. You can see this in the first pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The worst area was the intake. Where the lip meets the intake, there was a gap of almost a quarter inch. Huge amounts of putty to fill it. Still looks terrible, needs a FOD cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Hasegawa. The fit was as you would expect. It needed a little putty around the intake, the nose, and wing roots, about the same as the Revell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Pic showing the MLG bay, with the straight line taper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 hours ago, LALU38 said: After preliminary painting. I used model master enamels, dk gray 36118, Lt gray 36375 and neutral gray for the radome. Can you identify the kits left to right in this pic? I ask because the distance from the trailing edge of the wing to the leading edge of the stab looks smaller/shorter on the left kit. Or is it just an illusion in the pic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LALU38 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, habu2 said: Can you identify the kits left to right in this pic? I ask because the distance from the trailing edge of the wing to the leading edge of the stab looks smaller/shorter on the left kit. Or is it just an illusion in the pic? L-R . Revell, Academy and Hasegawa. The distance difference is just an illusion of the pic, what you are seeing in the Revell is the ventral stabilizer beneath the starboard wing. Both the Revell and Hasegawa match up identical as far as size. The Academy seems just a tad smaller, like it is 1/49 or so instead of 1/48, not that you can tell from this pic. UPDATE: Upon further review, the distance between the trailing edge of the wing and the front of the edge of the stab is 3/16 “ longer in the Hasegawa than in the Revell., or 9 scale inches (good eyes, Habu!) The Revell stabs are about the same amount larger than the Hasegawa. Edited November 17, 2019 by LALU38 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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