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Luftwaffe 707/307C

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I saw a kit in 1/144 that was this designation. What is this model type closest to

as a civil airliner and what liveries would it have had. I do not want a Luftwaffe

707 but I am interested in civil liveries.- jon

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If it is the Revell kit you are referring to then  check this link for is lineage. You will see it has had been reboxed a number of times.

 

And it scale out to 1/139 apparently. the product timeline will give you an idea of the schemes you could do. It is basically a 707-320, so plenty of options out there.

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Thanks Ray, I am not sure if Revell's boxing is correct but I found it as a

707-320C. Don't know what's needed to make it one. I do know it had the

2 kinks in the trailing edge of the wing and the large cargo bay door or

at least that's what a 707-323C had.- jon

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Jon,

 

The 2 digits (or letters) after the 3 in the Boeing model number denotes the customer number, for example 20 is Boeing itself, 07 is the West German Air Force,  23 is American Airlines. The 300 series were basically the same config/wing arrangement. The 'C' s had the forward cargo door fitted. Each airline would have made minor changes, mainly internal to suit there needs.

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OK, fair enough, I had seen that article before but forgot about the intricacies of the 300/20, 320B, 320C and 320BAdv

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Jon &  Ray,

A little education may be in order here.  The Revell 707 kit is inded 1/139 scale, but is not a 707-320.  It represents a 707-120 in it's first boxings with JT3C engines.  In later boxings, the engines were replaced with JT3Ds with turbo hoods on engines #2 & 3 only, thus representing a 707-123B of American Airlines only. Almost all other airles opted for turbo hoods on engines #2, 3, & 4.  The fuselage length is too short for a -320/420 Intercontinental.  However, the fuselage can be shortened to make a 707-138B and 720B. [Here are links to a Ethiopian 720B and EL AL 720B].  If a true 707-320/B/C is desired, then the Airfix (early 707-320/420) or Minicraft (late 707-320B/C) kits are a better starting point.  Jon, as you point out, there are so many variations even among like model series. There are engine fit, antenna, fin height and ventral strake variations depending on the original airline customer, and then later upgrades. So choose your color scheme carefully and refer to actual photos.  There are several good airliner decal manufacturers availabe today besdies the older out of business decals floating on resale sites; too many to mention for fear of missing some; but they all have some very interesting & retro schemes available.  Good luck!

K/r,

Dutch

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Thanks Brother Dutch for the clarification, I noticed some of the related boxings on Scalemates wa the shorter fuselage version but thought they were a different tooled kit.

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OK so the Revell Luftwaffe boxing is a 707-120 with JT3C engines or is it a later one with JT3Ds?

Will it pass for a 707-123 American Airlines livery? Or are the engines incorrect? Thanks- jon

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One note. I just saw some sprues for that 707/307 and it has no kinks in the wing trailing edge.

Is this the original 707 Strato jet? My older brother built a Revell 707 with AA orange lightning

bolt decals in the early 1960s. Is this a repop with different engines?- jon

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Jon, 

Yes, this kit depicts the 707-123B with straight leading edge and curved trailing edges to the inboard flaps. It has the JT3D engines with tc hoods on inboard engines only.  And yes. It would look very impressive with AA orange lightning bolts. 

R/ Dutch 

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Thanks Dutch. I went to Scalemates but I really prefer someone with hands on

experience. There is just so much that site tells you. Now to get Vintage Flyers

1/139 short tail AA lightning bolt decals.- jon

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Dutch thanks for the info. I found a Revell Astrojet 1964 boxing kit sealed! I have model

in hand and am more confused. It looks like a 720-023B, I think. It seems to have the tall

tail, ventral fin, JT3D engines and an early 707 wing. I thought the 720 had a kink in the

leading edge and a wing glove. Also it has 3 extra windows after the rear door on the fuselage.

I don't see this on 707s. The decals have registration number N7538A which is a 720-023B. See

images below and thanks again. BTW Vintage Flyer only does 1/139 decals for the short tail

original 707.- jon

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I just measured my kit. It is just about 12 inches from nose to tail. In 1/139 scale that's about

139 feet. The 707-120B is 145 feet 1 inch. The 720-023B is 136 feet 9 inches. So I guess my

kit represents a 720-023B more closely than a 707-120B? It definitely is a tall tail, no questions

asked and does have the ventral fin. I could be wrong if the stabs protrude further back than the

tip of the fuselage than it may be longer.....hmmmmm - jon

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