Solo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Master is not making pitot tubes for specific kits, so their pitot tube just for Su-27 should fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Nino_Belov said: Who have eyes will see,who have intelligence will get it...I will probably be banned from this forum because of this,but what the hack,the truth is always my choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, Solo said: Master is not making pitot tubes for specific kits, so their pitot tube just for Su-27 should fit. I hope to be able to tell you very Very VERY soon. Here is the Master one but he is also making the static dischargers for the Su-27 family. Already in the stash here so . . . Actualy the Master pitots and static dischargers are a 100% copy of the original. It is not made, distorted in any way to go with any kit but a TRUE copy of the real one. So the kit is the one which should be adjusted for it! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I did say that the kit will be on show and very soon. Actually it is on public view at this weekends Shanghai Summer Model Contest. So if you are there in Shanghai this weekend don’t forget to drop in and have a first-hand look at the sprues. Here are the sprues and the stand Photos by Haneto. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I don't need the sprues to know that this kit has Su-35 quality, it is well seen on the pictures. The only thing to know is when normal Su-27 will be available. UB is not for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcon91352 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Looks fantastic! I am looking forward to both kits, one and dual seaters! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Word! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) Cant wait to feel it in my hands!! Even USAF pilot posed in front of Flanker 😛 Edited August 8, 2020 by mario krijan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, mario krijan said: Even USAF pilot posed in front of Flanker That's nuthin............. Yours truly has actually SAT in a Flanker....... (Me at Kubinka in 1993..) (Note the ejection seat arming chord at top left - a small detail often missed - does the new GWH kit have it? .... and again at Zhukovski in a Su-33 (IIRC) ..... (arming chord there - but not attached) Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Hi Ken, Good to see you here!!!!!!! Hope all is well with you! About the chord. As far as I know there will be non in the kit. I know it will be completely unbuildable from this, but what can we do . . . : ) : ) : ) Actually the canopy is made in a way to be possible to show it both in open or closed configuration. If you have anything attached between the seat the moving canopy that would pose a problem. It is a small and fiddly part which should have been made as a photoetch but an extra thin strip of "something" would make this terrible mistake of this kit corrected. Stay safe!!!!!!!!! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, ya-gabor said: I did say that the kit will be on show and very soon. Actually it is on public view at this weekends Shanghai Summer Model Contest. So if you are there in Shanghai this weekend don’t forget to drop in and have a first-hand look at the sprues. Here are the sprues and the stand Photos by Haneto. Best regards Gabor 398 yuan=48,5eur for domestic market,obviously Cool discounts for 35 and 29 below... Edited August 8, 2020 by Petarvu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Hope it's final price 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 If so it is more expensive then Su-35. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Petarvu said: 398 yen=48,5eur for domestic market,obviously That is not yen but chinese yuan. Edited August 8, 2020 by Solo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) Then how many eur would it be if it is 398 chinese yuan? Edited August 8, 2020 by Tapchan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tapchan said: Then how many eur would it be if it is 398 chinese yuan? 48.45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 yuan = 0,12 euro. 48 euro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) It is more expensive than Su-35 by only around 5%. With €85 avg price of the Su-35 that would be maybe €4 extra. Even less, because european price includes also shipping and margin which should not rise along the base kit price. 20 rmb price difference + 4 rmb of tax gives us €3 extra. Also some shops in Belgium/France/Netherlands offer a discount for new releases which may go around €10 (usual AMK F-14D price is €65 now but in some shops you could've bought it for €48-€55 at the beginning). Edited August 8, 2020 by Tapchan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Solo said: That is not yen but chinese yuan. Yes,typo. Edited Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Nino_Belov said: Ok you win.I will not include my self anymore in this forum.Bye. Dude, chill. There is nothing wrong with bringing up a perceived problem. I am still having difficulty telling what the problem is from your photos. I understand that you are saying that there is a "kink" in the under surface of the fuselage/wing that is the wrong place. I don't think we have enough photos of that area on the actual kit to see it properly. But, if there is an issue there, it will come out. Inferring that anyone who can't see it is unintelligent is just plain rude. Be patient. More photos will be released. I would like to see the area in question with the engine nacelle in place. I will say, that if there is an actual problem there, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I don't think it raises to the level of the AMK F-14D hips, but that's just one person's opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Next up are the fragile and crisp parts, the transparencies. As shown before the canopies are complex parts where the modeller has a choice of what he wants to do based on his skills and preferences. Little can be said, photos are here of the plastic parts. Only can add that we tried to get as close to that Omega cross section shape as possible and slide mould technology allows this to be made. Here is the sprue that one uses if wants to play around a little more with parts and also wants to avoid some of those internal view distortions with a closed canopy. Frist glimpe of the single seat versions canopy but what is more important here is the front windshield which is common for both the single seat and the Su-27UB versions If one is not so keen on ading extra work then can use this version of the canopy, say when it is shown in open position and the slight distortion is not so important / visible. The Su-27UB specific sprue for different parts of the canopy, the other version of wing tip missile rail and of course that big air brake with all sorts of fine internal details. There are several solo micro small sprues like for the nose wheel mud guard or the ejection seat headrest as well as some of the weapons sprues like here for the unguided missile block or the paired pylon. More very soon! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Looks fantastic! Get them out so we can buy them. Then get the single seater out! Great work.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Mstor said: But, if there is an issue there, it will come out. Inferring that anyone who can't see it is unintelligent is just plain rude. Be patient. More photos will be released. I would like to see the area in question with the engine nacelle in place. I will say, that if there is an actual problem there, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I don't think it raises to the level of the AMK F-14D hips, but that's just one person's opinion. Yes, there was that question on wing design details. I have said before that this question was tackled previously and if someone took the time to read what was shown all so many weeks ago then he would have noticed that this feature was shown especially to doubters of the authenticity of our work. Here it is again I believe a company has to learn and develop all the time and take into account any mistakes no matter how small from the past and grow further. G.W.H has been around for a decade now and the line of kits produced so far I think clearly shows this scrupulous work to provide as perfect as possible products to the customers. How big is this “crease” on the 48 th scale kit??? Barely noticeable and have to admit very difficult to show and photograph. But here it is. Hope it is clear now. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Great details Gabor - it looks fabulous - although not my scale. I see that it has the rails for the blind-flying canopy.......... .... will there be instructions on how to make the folded curtain (if the modeller chooses to fit it ???). My attempt in 1/72 scale is less than stellar...... Ken PS - I'm not trying to be awkward - just fascinated by the level of detail you have incorporated - it's just stunning....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Hi Ken, Thanks. We do / did try to do our best and make a kit by modellers for modellers. The curtain. As far as I know it is not included. While the frame is there on the canopy it shows exactly the dual role of the aircraft as in its name UB (Учебно Боевой) or Trainer / Fighter. When used as a trainer with the need for blind flying for the forward seated pupil then the curtain is installed. But for standard fighter bomber mission the curtain is in the way so it is not fitted. Now here we are tip-toing on very thin ice. If I add details on what the curtain looks like and where to put it then inevitably there will be some modellers who don’t read the explanation and will ask “ where is that curtain part” it is must be missing from his set and anyway the kit is unbuildable. Some Russians for example DEMAND that all kits should have the introductory offer of the second tinted canopy of the previous Su-35S kit, just as with this new Su-27UB to have the turned pitot as a standard feature of ALL kits. They simply don’t understand the meaning of “introductory extra”. Unfortunately I think the same would happen here with the curtain explanation. Good to have you on board and comment as someone who not only seen a Flanker but also spent some time in it! : ) : ) Even if only just minutes! : ) : ) Keep safe! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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