ya-gabor Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, DIO said: More interested on the kit, maybe... But please keep being such a... , we really enjoy it! I am trying to concentrate on the kit both here and on other forums, it is not easy, there are people who feel they need a venting place fro what ever problems they have. Sorry. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flanker27 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 will this thread reach a 100 posts? shall we set a target?😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Edited August 16, 2020 by Nino_Belov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Seraph Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I like the riveting detail on the exhaust petals, I understand this is possible only with a split exhaust in 3 or 4 parts, or slide molding. The joint line is visible but with some careful adjustments, it could be almost invisible. Yes, as is, the results are impressive. AFAIC, no need for resin for the exhaust cans, seats and cockpit IP/side consoles and gear wells. I cannot wait !!! Cheers ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Mr Matt Foley Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Nino_Belov said: Nino, I didn't realize you were into "Hip Hop"! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 22 hours ago, ya-gabor said: This morning I was preparing them to publish the 5 schemes. May all your wishes come true this way. : ) : ) : ) : ) Best regards Gabor Anyone has any idea if there is already a mask for the BLUE 74 out there or somebody is contemplating of producing one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, flybywire said: Anyone has any idea if there is already a mask for the BLUE 74 out there or somebody is contemplating of producing one? I believe this one should be what you look for: http://www.advmodprds.com/am48-10.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Regarding some earlier comments. Gentlemen...Please be more civil with each other. This is ARC afterall. ❤️ BTW...looks like a nice kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 9:40 AM, ya-gabor said: A quick assembly of the ejection seats showing the choice given to modellers. How many time have you seen that the seat in forward and after cockpit have the harness left behind by pilots in exactly the same “arrangement”. Earlier in this thread, I threatened to build the Academy single seater in my stash with all its aftermarket, since it was clearly a case of now or never. Anyway, I need to make space for the GWH kit, and I now realise a two-seater will be the perfect companion. So, first step for me in building my Academy kit was to prepare the Aires cockpit set, which includes a beautifully moulded seat and PE harness. It took me more than 4 hours to get that PE harness onto the resin seat and to look good. First, I don't think the actual seat in resin is much better than your plastic version: I'm very impressed with what I see in the picture above. Secondly, I am not keen to EVER do that PE harness assembly again. It looks great, but what you are offering in plastic is not that much worse - and assembling it in one step, rather than the half-day I spent to make the PE one - let's just say this by itself is almost worth paying the premium for the GWH kit. A few other observations: The nozzles look great! I like the way it was done, the seams look fantastic, and once again - comparing it to the Cutting Edge nozzles that I bought for the Academy kit - I will not bother changing the GWH nozzles for a resin one. In my case, nozzles is indeed one of the few items that I tend to swap for resin replacements on most kits, but the GWH solution looks very, very good and I think I would just stick with the kit plastic versions in this case. So, the fact that the plastic cockpit and nozzles are so good on the GWH kit already saves me enough to pay the slightly higher price. I'm really very, very impressed with what I have seen so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Nino_Belov said: Hi Nino. Glad you're still around. Be well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Mstor said: Hi Nino. Glad you're still around. Be well! No worries bro,thanks.I like ARC,I am here long long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 So why did you delete your all previous post. Could you explain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, Solo said: So why did you delete your all previous post. Could you explain? Ptsd work his part...it never goes,sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ching kuo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Nino is a good guy, he is insightful, the model kit is his guts that can be seen, he contributes to this forum in his own way, he is really a big help, like his motivation , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, ching kuo said: Nino is a good guy, he is insightful, the model kit is his guts that can be seen, he contributes to this forum in his own way, he is really a big help, like his motivation , 👍👍👍🍺 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 12:48 AM, Tapchan said: I believe this one should be what you look for: http://www.advmodprds.com/am48-10.html Got it. Thanks Tapchan! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) On 7/15/2020 at 10:40 AM, ya-gabor said: Sorry for a belated update on the brand new G.W.H Su-27 kit family in 48 th scale. Here is another batch of images about the development and those fine details that we thought was important to add and differentiate between version in this kits design. The radar. This is an interesting part. There was never an urge to cut the kit into little pieces by opening up lots of service panels, but the radar is serviced fairly regularly. The Su-27 aircraft design had a special feature incorporated into it. The whole nose section can be lifted with the help of a special and fairly simple winch. It take minutes to do and the technician has access to the unit. Remember that a radar unit servicing is mainly (95%) about the “black boxes” of electronics and only in 5% about maintenance of the actual radar dish. This is why one can simply lift the nose section and do the work. To get to the radar dish is a far more complicated task, very rarely carried out in field conditions. For this the nose cone is removed with many locks, under it one finds a protector hood of the dish which has to be removed by unscrewing dozens of lock. This is carried out mainly during heavy overhaul of the whole aircraft. There is absolutely no point in going so deep into radar details. Compared to this the nose part is lifted regularly, obvious that we went with this detailing and no further. Little attention is payed to the big airbrakes that the Flanker has. In most cases “something” is provided and no difference is made between the single and two seater versions. Also there are some fine details here, both on the actual airbrake and in the bay. The UB two seater has a completely different design with many very complex curves and shapes. Personally this is kind of details that I look for in a kit and here it was luck that we could make it the way we as modellers would like to see it. Best regards Gabor Dear Gabor and Yufei,with all do respects, Can I ask you where and on which one aircraft did you took measures for canopy? I just got my friend asked to get on the top of Su-33 and take measure of section D which your prefere here as 508mm,but on SU-33 is 754mm,well it is near as same as on Su-27/35,because this part of canopy is practicly the same on all three types. But is very big defernece betwean 508mm and 754mm,but what is interesting,is that glass area on Su-33 in that rear part is exact 508mm??? And what is most interesting on your SU-35 model kit,this measure is something less than 0,15mm,which is fine.So it seams that you have made correct canopy for Su-35.I wait today to get measures of real aircraft also of this same section of Su-35. Please explain.Thank you. Edited August 18, 2020 by Nino_Belov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Thread Hijack Alert!! What is a good reference book on the SU-27 from a modelers point of view? Similar to a Detail & Scale Showing wheel wells cockpits and other items modelers care about? I have the Yefim Gordon volume. But while thats a great history book it isn't the best from a modelers point of view. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) So regarding the Su-27 canopy data we disclosed, all data was from actual measurement. It first came from our Russian friend's resource, and I compared with my data measured in China, they did fit with each other. I can tell you more that: The inner diameter of the Su-27 canopy opening is 705mm, frame thickness is 47mm, so over all diameter is 799mm which we round up to 800mm. Edit: OK I apologize that seems the booklet man made the WRONG arrow on the page: Dimension 508mm refers to the circular area outside, not the width between the frames beneath. So we are talking dimension on different area, sorry for the confusion. That is all I can tell from my reference. Plus considering the plastic part shrinkage during injection, it does not really worth concerning so much about these data. Or in other words, such data is just used as some kind of guidance for CAD drawing, but not the definition links to final part size. After all, it is the overall looking of a model matters most importantly. Just my 2 cents. Edited August 19, 2020 by haneto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, haneto said: So regarding the Su-27 canopy data we disclosed, all data was from actual measurement. It first came from our Russian friend's resource, and I compared with my data measured in China, they did fit with each other. I can tell you more that: The inner diameter of the Su-27 canopy opening is 705mm, frame thickness is 47mm, so over all diameter is 799mm which we round up to 800mm. I have no idea why the above data is so different than ours, but if you calculate the difference 246mm by 1/48 scale, it will be over 5mm. And if you compare it with ANY 1/48 Flanker kit, you will find the data as of 754mm, is apparently wrong. That is all I can tell from my reference. Plus considering the plastic part shrinkage during injection, it does not really worth concerning so much about these data. Or in other words, such data is just used as some kind of guidance for CAD drawing, but not the definition links to final part size. After all, it is the overall looking of a model matters most importantly. Just my 2 cents. Ok,so lets say that I am wrong,and all those mechanics and airmans. It is always a chance that we all made mistake,and that none of us took measurements correctly. Please measure section D on our model kit?And just show us here?If is just a little bit smaller than 15mm,you got it all wrong. Edited August 19, 2020 by Nino_Belov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nino_Belov said: Ok,so lets say that I am wrong,and all those mechanics and airmans. It is always a chance that we all made mistake,and that none of us took measurements correctly. Please measure section D on our model kit?And just show us here?If is just a little bit smaller than 15mm,you got it all wrong. OK I apologize that seems the booklet man made the WRONG arrow on the page: Dimension 508mm refers to the circular area outside, not the width between the frames beneath. So we are talking dimension on different area, sorry for the confusion. Edited August 19, 2020 by haneto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, haneto said: I have said that if you spend some time measuring ANY 1/48 Flanker kit, none of them has the width of that area over 15mm. You can also cut a plastic card as of 15mm, put it on ANY 1/48 Flanker kit you will find it does not match fuselage at all. Try it, I'm sure you will understand. Will you be kind to measure section D,which you have shown here?And to show as all,with ANY of 15mm comparison size element or object.At least any measuring instrument.ANY... Edited August 19, 2020 by Nino_Belov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nino_Belov said: Will you be kind to measure section D,which you have shown here? OK I apologize that seems the booklet man made the WRONG arrow on the page: Dimension 508mm refers to the circular area outside, not the width between the frames beneath. So we are talking dimension on different area, sorry for the confusion. Edited August 19, 2020 by haneto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nino_Belov Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, haneto said: OK I apologize that seems the booklet man made the WRONG arrow on the page: Dimension 504mm refers to the circular area outside, not the width between the frames beneath. So we are talking dimension on different area, sorry for the confusion. Not a problem,people make mistakes.But in modeling those mistakes are crucial. So here is a little bit of the look of section D on your Su-35: And Kinetic's Su-33 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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