Curt B Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: I foresee the end of the Cockpit Artist with these 3d printed "easy way out" cockpit decals. Matt, I agree with you as far as it goes. But the fact is that these wonderful little Quinta sets are very expensive, and not everyone can or will choose to afford them. Plus, there will always be those folks who want to do it the ’hard way’, if for no other reason than they can. As for me, someone with zero artistic or other talent, I love that there is now another option to make my airplanes look great, which is my ultimate goal anyway. But, getting back to the topic that the OP started... 😊 Edited December 17, 2020 by Curt B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratte Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 22 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: I foresee the end of the Cockpit Artist with these 3d printed "easy way out" cockpit decals. Hmmm maybe, but I am not 100% sure. I haven’t seen the Quinta Decals in person yet but the combination of a great oob cockpit together with cockpit decals and some careful painting also leads to some spectacular results (see for example hanetos Su-35 build on this site). Great Wall Hobby does a great job in that regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKKA Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Habe received two AKAN sets. 47332 and 47325. both for Su-27, from what I understand 47332 is for later colors, after 2014. And yes, 73069 grey dark blue looks in the bottle very much like the Quinta color choice for Su-27UB. now I can start with the build Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 7:58 AM, Ratte said: Hmmm maybe, but I am not 100% sure. I haven’t seen the Quinta Decals in person yet but the combination of a great oob cockpit together with cockpit decals and some careful painting also leads to some spectacular results (see for example hanetos Su-35 build on this site). Great Wall Hobby does a great job in that regards. I was being sarcastic. They're lazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
legend1 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) this is what i have from akan set number 47301 they are all faded and the version i will do is the the red 64 from the Baltic fleet should be ok? or what do you think guys ? Edited December 20, 2020 by legend1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Ill be grabbing a few Quinta sets. One thing is for sure is some weathering, a wash etc will lift Quinta from just a 3D addon set to incredible. There is always room for the cockpit artist to improve upon a great set and elevate their work above the shake and bake crew. Just because they do a great job doesnt mean it cant be improved on.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 The OOB effect of cockpit panel by kit original decal and adding some UV glue to replicate glass effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Thanks, haneto. May I respectfully request a slightly off topic question and ask what UV Glue anyone has used with success? I’ve considered getting some in the past, and I guess there’s no time like the present. I suggest if anyone can recommend 1 or 2 glue sets, I don’t need to turn this into a big off-topic deal... Edited December 21, 2020 by Curt B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, haneto said: The OOB effect of cockpit panel by kit original decal and adding some UV glue to replicate glass effect. Now THIS is how you do a cockpit! Nice work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Now THIS is how you do a cockpit! Nice work! Word! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Well, got my second kit and found a bunch of bent missiles. All R-27Rs are bent, one 27T is bent slightly while second is straight. Checked first kit, found both 27T bent slightly and 4 straight 27Rs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 You should contact GWH's customer service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Hmm, it is hard to contact something that doesn't exist but thank you. Anyway, just wanted to inform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Sad news. I have bought 2 kits and am afraid of the same quality issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Porkbits Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Wow, thanks for the heads up. In a slight panic, checked my kit and, welp, same problem: So this could be a widespread issue with molds. Everyone should check! Got mine from Lucky Model (live in US). Probably can be fixed with some hot water and bending, though? Edited December 21, 2020 by Porkbits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKKA Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I have 2 kits and non of them is deformed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Porkbits said: Got mine from Lucky Model (live in US). Probably can be fixed with some hot water and bending, though? Mine are from Sprue Brothers both. There are also reports on Russian forums. Yes, it probably can be fixed with hot water but I afraid fins might bend fist as they're much thinner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solher1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Helmsman said: Well, got my second kit and found a bunch of bent missiles. All R-27Rs are bent, one 27T is bent slightly while second is straight. Checked first kit, found both 27T bent slightly and 4 straight 27Rs. I got two kits, the one I got from Sprue Brothers today is fine, the one I got from Lucky Model has the same problem as described by Helmsman above. Easy fix, I don't know. Juan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Mine are bent as well- figured I’ll just do the hot water trick and see if they respond like resin. 🤷♂️ Overall, still an incredible kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger16 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Do any of you guys have any paint recommendations. I usually spray lacquer paints. I’m on the fence between Akan russian paints 10ml bottles or mrp 30ml paints. Thanks for looking jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Akan 6 series. Don't even consider 7 series. MRP are great but sometimes a bit off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, Stinger16 said: Do any of you guys have any paint recommendations. I usually spray lacquer paints. I’m on the fence between Akan russian paints 10ml bottles or mrp 30ml paints. Thanks for looking jeff Akan Lacquers are good paint. My experience with the water based acryl paints was terrible. Very poor adhesion on a very good primer (Mr. Surfacer 1200) so unless they made some amazing changes lately, I would stay clear of them. There are some very good enamels from White Ensign which are supposed to be very good color wise as well. Stay away from Akan water based products. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Porkbits Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) So if I wanted to do this guy, which laquer series AKAN set should I buy? I've been using their acrylics for a few years, but agree that adhesion is a problem and I need to switch to the lacquers. Thanks so much, and hope everyone has a good holiday (as best you can during the 2020 dumpster fire)..... Edited December 25, 2020 by Porkbits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKKA Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 What’s the complain about the 7xxxx series? I have the sets 47325 and 47332, both 7xxxx series specifically for Su-27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
legend1 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, RKKA said: What’s the complain about the 7xxxx series? I have the sets 47325 and 47332, both 7xxxx series specifically for Su-27 but and i do apologize if i'm wrong those set of akan are for the su 27 SM more modern batch !!! but in a close inspection of what said about the red 64 in 2007 went for a rapair so they repainted again maybe they used the same colors like the more recent su 27 SM series i hope to sort it out this as well ! i'm a bit confused!!! thanks for any help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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