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On 12/29/2020 at 10:57 AM, madcop said:

 

Preordered mine from AMMO MIG (Spain) in October and received it today. First check went to the armement and to my relief, everything is O.K.

 

Madcop

it is easy fix just live it under running hot water for few seconds and try to straight the bend if is not enough just put under hot water again ! i use this to fix the depression on my amk tomcat on the side of the back end ! it works 

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If a slightly bent part is an issue worth saying, then better think of buying diecast models 😝😝😝

 

Common guys, we should be taking basic modelling skills as for granted. This cannot be something to alert about...

 

For those with some history in the hobby, just remember the Monogram, magnificent, history series. More parts wrapped than not.

 

Spoiled, spoiled, spoiled 😘😘😘

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Tools changed a bit since then, they allow for way better quality now.

 

This is QC issue, I expect no such problems in expensive kit with no customer service behind 🙂

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4 hours ago, Specter1075 said:

30 years ago, cars didn't even come with air bags, and now people complain when their air bag sensor fails? Spoiled spoiled spoiled.

 

Only this is not a failure. It is not a missing part, not an incomplete part. It is a slightly bent part, in a hobby where people are expected to build something using parts, glue and filler.

If this is an alert, or it may stop someone from buying or building the model, then I honestly cannot see many models fit to such a skill level.

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If we have reached the point where we find ourselves whining about slightly bent missile bodies in a simply stunning kit, then maybe we should look to find another, less demanding, hobby. 

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The issue is not whether it is challenging to fix, its a question of getting what you pay for. There are people who can scratch build models from just about anything but that doesn't mean I'm ok if the mail man runs over my kit. Bent missiles are a defect, not part of the challenge.

 

I'm pretty sure Great Wall wouldn't want people to get a bunch of bent parts either.

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On 12/30/2020 at 1:38 PM, madcop said:

 

Toooooooooooooo bad ! Just hope you've got a honest neighbour ! Keep us posted ....😉

 

This is what I came across today when back home - package was standing like that for 5 long days (no worries, doors were closed, it's just my fiancee who had to get in immediately no matter what) 😄

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On 6/19/2020 at 8:17 PM, Solo said:

Ok, but my question was not why they don't make such subtle lines at all, because they can make them at all.
I am curious why they don't make them on whole kit.
Please check out this part of nacelle of Su-35.

One line is fine and subtle, second one, next to it - is not.
The same I can say about panels.

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The different thickness of the rivets depends on the use of cnc machines with 3 axes (rivets with different thicknesses as the engraver can be tilted) or 4-5 axes (rivets with the same thickness as the engraver can be tilted and remain parallel to the surface to be engraved)).

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Happy new year every one.

Just came back from 15th Shanghai New Year Modelling Contest as the judge for aircraft models.

 

I have seen at least 5 finished Su-27UB built by Chinese and Japanese modellers online/offline,  so hurry up guys. Your turn now!

 

On 12/21/2020 at 7:08 PM, Curt B said:

Thanks, haneto.  May I respectfully request a slightly off topic question and ask what UV Glue anyone has used with success?  I’ve considered getting some in the past, and I guess there’s no time like the present.  I suggest if anyone can recommend 1 or 2 glue sets, I don’t need to turn this into a big off-topic deal...

I used a so-called "Swiss brand" ERGO 8500 which is very cheap(USD3.- for 200g) and common here in China.

Maybe it's a fake Swiss brand but the quality is quite good.

Hope you guys can find some good replacement as well...

 

Yufei

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On 1/3/2021 at 7:10 AM, Tapchan said:

 

This is what I came across today when back home - package was standing like that for 5 long days (no worries, doors were closed, it's just my fiancee who had to get in immediately no matter what) 😄

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Good news and honest neighbours ...If I were your neighbour,I could have built the kit for you !

😁

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1 hour ago, madcop said:

 

Good news and honest neighbours ...If I were your neighbour,I could have built the kit for you !

😁

 

..and also keep it..

 

...for you!

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9 hours ago, DIO said:

 

..and also keep it..

 

...for you!

 

You are being mean...I am honest and I would have kept it for me until Tapchan's  Christmas 2021 !🤣

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Modelers are introverts - what it one of my neighbours be a modeller too? He'd saw big box from MIG and... Well, luckily it's here 🙂

 

Missiles are straight. I have found 2 defects however. One kit had a part broken in half on the frame with those thin, fragile pipes and stuff. Minor problem I guess. Second has the one piece canopy scratched (in some spots even to matte finish), probably by the broken off arced sprue that was supposed to protect it. I haven't noticed anything else. The boxes are huuuuuge (Tamiya F-14 seem small now next to them) but stuffed tight with plastic. Not as much as Zvezda's Su-30SM but still I had to remind myself tetris skills to pack the first one back up. Anyway, I'm eager to build it but I have 2 active projects still on the bench (finished 3rd one today :D).

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I got mine recently and have spent a great deal of time oohing and awing over it.

Haneto will you be doing a beautiful build guide like you did for the Su-35?

 

Happy modeling everyone,

 

Chris

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I started work on my kit and cut the upper fuselage out of the sprues and notices the the right wing has a nice warp to it. Its nothing a flat surface and my wifes hair dryer should be able to fix, but anybody else have this? 

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They all have it, my 2 kits have it too.

i would keep it like that. Actually, on the real thing the outer wing is always a little bit warped forwards, it has to do with aerodynamics, it reduces the angle of attack of ailerons at high pitch of the aircraft.

 

 

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5 hours ago, RKKA said:

They all have it, my 2 kits have it too.

i would keep it like that. Actually, on the real thing the outer wing is always a little bit warped forwards, it has to do with aerodynamics, it reduces the angle of attack of ailerons at high pitch of the aircraft.

 

 

 

You're right...Missiles are warped to make them more maneuverable as well.

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5 hours ago, RKKA said:

They all have it, my 2 kits have it too.

i would keep it like that. Actually, on the real thing the outer wing is always a little bit warped forwards, it has to do with aerodynamics, it reduces the angle of attack of ailerons at high pitch of the aircraft.

 

 

At first I thought that was supposed to be there like you said, but only the right wing is warped and looking at pictures of Su-27UBs head on, the wings are really rather straight. Its not a twist front to back, more a outer wing sag inside to outer tip.

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Okay, if it’s one side only, that’s not fine. But in general, my 2 kits (and from what I saw online) have this slightly slack around the middle of the wings. With lower part attached, it seems to fine and more rigid 

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New add-on kits are already on sale:Su-27 exhaust nozzles for GWH Kit (1/48),https://reskit.com.ua/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=911, Su-27 wheels set late version (1/48) https://reskit.com.ua/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=885, Su-27 wheels set arly version (1/48) https://reskit.com.ua/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=884

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Happy New Year of Ox every one!

 

With more and more receive the Su-27UB kit, many have already finished the kit and posted their work on SNS such as Facebook etc.

Sadly people prefer using more user friendly SNS much more than "vintage" online forum these days, so forum people may not have a chance to see those magnificant works on SNS which is some big loss.

So here I post some of thr works which I have obtained the authors authorization, to show you how the kit will looks like once painted and glued.

 

And once again, please remember the designing target for this kit: "Easy and fun to build with overall accuracy and selected details(which mean we chose to omit the details which will not be visible after you finish the kit)."

 

We hope it to be a very well balanced kit, a kit for every one from beginner to veteran, all can enjoy it by their own way.

 

Afterall, it IS the "compromise" showing a designer's true understanding between real life and modelling art, showing his/her capability of balancing all the features within the limited time and money investment allowed.

Modelling itself, is the "compromise and/vs balance", in my view.

 

OK, here comes the first work, from the Polish modeller Marcin Torbiński.

He spent 3 weeks since Christmas holidays, to awake this Soviet era green nose veteran.

The straigt-forward OOB built brought him a lot of fun.

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Next one is the split camo bird from Ukrainian Air Force.

Many people are asking for digital camo but remember, the split camo was the most stylish one at its time so I personally wanted to add this to the kit.

Surely digital camo will be seperately released as a special limited edition in the near future.

 

This work was done by the Spanish modeller Moises Ballester Pardo.

He chose to use the seperated canopy frame part+ clear parts, which according to his comment "fitting is perfect!".

So glad to hear that, since our innovation actually sparkled and brought people happiness.

In every new kit design, we try to innovate new ideas by our own brainstorm, not just following others "best practice".

And now the feedback told us how worthwhile it is!

Moises simply "cannot wait to start his second UB kit!"

 

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Another OOB cockpit by Greek modeller Giorgos Papanikolaou.

Yes simply paint the plastic parts and add the kit decal with some mark softner, there you go!

 

So it's nothing fancy or special technical you need, it's just a normal practice in our design philosophy which is already established as one of the standards, since the 1/48 Su-35 kit.

 

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