Nino_Belov Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) ... Edited August 13, 2020 by Nino_Belov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 10 hours ago, mario krijan said: Ken.... isnt that Anatoly Kvochure exiting performance? You're correct Mario - I had a 'Senior Moment' there - my eyes read Viktor Pugachev - but by the time the signal got to my brain it read Anatoly Kvochur..... My entire post refers to Kvochur..... I'm going to lie down in a darkened room now...... Ken (who is rapidly losing it!!) PS - I also got Pugachev's signature at a previous MAKS - he signed a Sukhoi brochure for me.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The next instalment of details for the new G.W.H Su-27UB kit in 48th scale. There is little that I can add to the following images. They explain some of the fine details incorporated into the kit design. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIO Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I was convinced that this is a must have even before those details. So next question is... when????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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ya-gabor Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, DIO said: I was convinced that this is a must have even before those details. So next question is... when????? It is going to be in August this year. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Beck Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 and the second question......... (pecunia non olit, but it does not grow in the garden) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Yes, it will be expensive. 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Looking at the pricing changes in 1/72 scale (€35 for older kits, €55 for newest ones) we can expect also a change in 1/48 scale. Not really a positive change, I'm afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, ya-gabor said: There is little that I can add to the following images. They explain some of the fine details incorporated into the kit design. @ya-gabor, may I expect those pictiures, drawings and comments will be in the instruction manual of the kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Solo said: @ya-gabor, may I expect those pictiures, drawings and comments will be in the instruction manual of the kit? That would be nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Solo said: @ya-gabor, may I expect those pictiures, drawings and comments will be in the instruction manual of the kit? I am sure you know that I could not comment on this. Only can say that what you see here are prepared and edited to go with the lead up to the release of the kit to show some of the work that has gone into the desing of the kit in the past years. Believe me a lot of work. As to what will happen later . . . Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Won't the kit be expensive enough without this? We can always get HD digital version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delide Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) On 6/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, ya-gabor said: Also it is important to add that I am just one member of a team who designed this kit and have to admit that others had different access to information and data. I could not speak for them. Yes, the Flanker has been around for some time, on my side I used a lot of material from the past decades of research and tones of photos I taken going back to that very first Western premiere of the Su-27 in Paris. If you ask if we did a LIDAR scan of an airframe then I can say we did not, but looking at some "success" of other kit producers with this technology I think we are better off with not scanning. : ) : ) Best regards Gabor Sorry, I missed your reply, I meant maybe you guys took some measurements. But now that I've seen the CAD pictures and compared them to that of the Su-35, I'm actually a 100% certain that the shape of the windshield/canopy of the single seater has been redesigned, it's noticeably narrower too, looks like it's going match the AA/Kinetic's design quite well. Haha, I know at least one kit/manufacturer your are talking about :-) To be fair it's probably a 10$ kit(to distributors), so they probably didn't put much effort into it. Anyway, yes you guys are certainly getting the most out of the available data and the best by long shot regarding the details. Edited July 4, 2020 by delide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Here is a little bit more on the development of the new G.W.H Flanker family in 48 th scale. Once again most of it self-explanatory, no need for extra notes. There is always room for improvement. Many have disliked the engine exhausts of earlier kit for one or other reason. Some companies do it one way (as a single part) other have different solution. Still think that it was a right approach but one can go one step further. I was thinking about a slight change and fortunately G.W.H did like it and incorporated into the design. Will modellers like it or not I dont know. Hope they will. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIO Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Looks nooooiiisssseee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Here is another bunch of illustrations for the brand new G.W.H Su-27 kit in 48th scale and the way it was designed, what we wanted to add and parts we thought would be interesting to make the kit as authentic as possible. My sanity was questioned by some Russian Su-27 experts when I suggested that there is an indentation on both sides of the tail boom underside. It is round about the same place as the after wings of the missile are positioned. There is a gap there but still . . . Many photos were examined and I had a closer look at a real Su-27UB for confirmation and those “dents” are there. Only the Zvezda 72 nd scale kit has them but there it has very soft “edges” and looks more like a plastic shrinkage problem. Everyone is usually looking at the instrument panel as a mark of detail level for a cockpit. The area under the windscreen is usually overlooked / simplified. OK there is a HUD and some shape but that is all. Just as with the Su-35S kit this area was important in my opinion and G.W.H was easy to convince that it would be worthwhile to do a bit of detailing here. After all a plastic part will have to be made for the coming and it takes same amount of work to add details as not too. The only difference is in research that goes into it. Any difference for the modellers? Apart from looking nice and authentic there is also no need to get any aftermarket. Same with the HUD and its unit. The ejection seat. What can I say? Not much more than what is written here. A real live seat was measured for this research. The nose gear bay details are different for the single seater and the two seater aircraft, details are there in the kit. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 It would me nice if GWH included F.O.D. in the kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Thanks Gabor and Yufei for all those small details explained.... Cheers from Adriatic sea coast and cold Paulaner 🙂🙂🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Fantastic attention to detail. I know this kit won't be cheap, but at the slow rate at which I complete models, it looks like it will be very well worth it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Incredible attention to detail a big thanks from all Flanker lovers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 2:06 AM, Mfezi said: Fantastic attention to detail. I know this kit won't be cheap, but at the slow rate at which I complete models, it looks like it will be very well worth it! I don't mind paying for quality! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
konbini Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 At last I thinned my stash a tiny bit and actually completed a build and started on another. However all that work will be out the window now 🤣. I hope the missus wont notice any additions. But seriously this is amazing work and the passion really shows. Im looking forward to my copies once I can get my hands on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Sorry for a belated update on the brand new G.W.H Su-27 kit family in 48 th scale. Here is another batch of images about the development and those fine details that we thought was important to add and differentiate between version in this kits design. The radar. This is an interesting part. There was never an urge to cut the kit into little pieces by opening up lots of service panels, but the radar is serviced fairly regularly. The Su-27 aircraft design had a special feature incorporated into it. The whole nose section can be lifted with the help of a special and fairly simple winch. It take minutes to do and the technician has access to the unit. Remember that a radar unit servicing is mainly (95%) about the “black boxes” of electronics and only in 5% about maintenance of the actual radar dish. This is why one can simply lift the nose section and do the work. To get to the radar dish is a far more complicated task, very rarely carried out in field conditions. For this the nose cone is removed with many locks, under it one finds a protector hood of the dish which has to be removed by unscrewing dozens of lock. This is carried out mainly during heavy overhaul of the whole aircraft. There is absolutely no point in going so deep into radar details. Compared to this the nose part is lifted regularly, obvious that we went with this detailing and no further. Little attention is payed to the big airbrakes that the Flanker has. In most cases “something” is provided and no difference is made between the single and two seater versions. Also there are some fine details here, both on the actual airbrake and in the bay. The UB two seater has a completely different design with many very complex curves and shapes. Personally this is kind of details that I look for in a kit and here it was luck that we could make it the way we as modellers would like to see it. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:38 PM, B.Sin said: I don't mind paying for quality! Word! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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