DarkKnight Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 so in 1:48 , the Kinetic has nose issues, Tamiya is the best F-16, but theres no D model, should I build the Kinetic, or build a Tamiya conversion and risk Tamiya coming out with a D right after I start? or any other ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Y no Hase? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I've seen quite a few Tamiya/Kinetic mashups that are really good. From what I understand it's not really difficult to achieve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 ^^ it sounds scary to try, no HAS because that one is a Barak I believe, not a Sufa or am I wrong? is it any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Not sure if you could try converting any of the other Hasegawa F-16 2-seaters: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10098635 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289595 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10112456 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10068902 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10331693 Some of the sold out ones do appear occasionally on E-Bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, DarkKnight said: ^^ it sounds scary to try, no HAS because that one is a Barak I believe, not a Sufa or am I wrong? is it any good? It certainly looks good built up: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10084618 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10084618 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Both Hasegawa and Kinetic have released F-16I kits in 48th. The Hasegawa is probably an easier build but the Kinetic is probably more accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macco Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hello, there was a very comprehensive comparison on ARC: too bad that the images are non more visible, but maybe the text could help you all the same. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I built this one 7 or 8 years ago from the Hasegawa kit. I used the full conversion from IsraDecal. Totally disappointed with the resin but the decals were great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 ^^^ beautiful result, Ive got the Isracal decals, did you build a full conversion on a F-16D or did you use the F-16i kit they used to make? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The D kit. The Popeye missiles were also from Isra Decal. No complaints on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pep Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I’ve built both, the hasegawa for me is a much more enjoyable build and looks great when finished. Both can be improved with aftermarket but In my opinion I stick with Hasegawas. on a side note, if you are looking for one send me a PM 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJN Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 11:25 AM, airmechaja said: I built this one 7 or 8 years ago from the Hasegawa kit. I used the full conversion from IsraDecal. Totally disappointed with the resin but the decals were great. Can I ask what the problems were with the resin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I cut up a Tamiya F-16C and did WIPs for the whole build on ARC & Z5 years ago. Used the Hasegawa Sufa parts & scratchbuild some stuff. PhotoBucket ruins the pix, but they are still in the WIP archives. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 ^^^ beautiful work, exact aircraft I wish to build! down to the tail code Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Raptor01 said: I cut up a Tamiya F-16C and did WIPs for the whole build on ARC & Z5 years ago. Used the Hasegawa Sufa parts & scratchbuild some stuff. PhotoBucket ruins the pix, but they are still in the WIP archives. John Word! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avenger Lai Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 6:13 AM, DarkKnight said: so in 1:48 , the Kinetic has nose issues, Tamiya is the best F-16, but theres no D model, should I build the Kinetic, or build a Tamiya conversion and risk Tamiya coming out with a D right after I start? or any other ideas? I think the nose issue of the Kinetic kits are for the single seaters only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Nose issue of Kinetic affects all the early releases, including the F-16I The best SUFA is hands down the Hasegawa 1/48 F-16I, although it can well do with aftermarket cockpit details to make it a correct F-16I cockpit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Avenger Lai said: I think the nose issue of the Kinetic kits are for the single seaters only. Both single- and two-seat Kinetic kits use the same lower fuselage, so the "corrected" kits have changes to both upper and lower parts. This also means you can't swap a "corrected" upper/lower part onto an original (uncorrected) lower/upper part Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 6:42 PM, JJN said: Can I ask what the problems were with the resin? I found the resin details to be very soft almost non existent with many air bubbles. I know others didn't have the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamitri Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 19 hours ago, habu2 said: Both single- and two-seat Kinetic kits use the same lower fuselage, so the "corrected" kits have changes to both upper and lower parts. This also means you can't swap a "corrected" upper/lower part onto an original (uncorrected) lower/upper part How do you tell which kits have the corrected parts ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, adamitri said: How do you tell which kits have the corrected parts ? On the corrected sets there is a small (~1/32") "step" or "notch" about an inch back from the front of the lower fuselage part, on each side right at the mating line. There is a matching step in the upper piece but it is not easy to see. Unfortunately there is no difference / distinction on the box. You won't know which you got until you open the box. There was probably a boxing where it was first included but I have two copies of one release (48012 I think) one has the fix, one doesn't. . Edited January 11, 2020 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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