Katran Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) The U.S. Navy command decided to upgrade the entire F / A-18E / F Super Hornet fleet to the new Block III version. In addition, on March 21 this year, the U.S. Navy signed a new contract with Boeing for the construction of 78 new F / A-18 Super Hornet Block III fighters. New aircraft should be put into operation by aircraft carriers by 2021. Rumors about the problems of the F-35C are confirmed, in my opinion, this is the second story, like the F-104, the hopes were great, and the car failed - “Flying Coffin”. Therefore, I had a question, maybe someone knows what are the external differences of the production model (there are only 7, about 5 there is information and 2 secrets) except for the new pilot dashboard, conformal fuel tanks, a container with weapons on the central support. First changes but they are not accurate The first thing that interests me on the production model is the installation of a guide device under my nose, like the F-35? And exactly how the glider for installation was modified by the RCS (Radar Cross Section) system, the installation of which required a change in the shape of the bow of the aircraft, but allowed to improve the operation of the angle of attack sensors. There are a couple more questions. but I still don’t understand how to formulate them correctly. Edited January 26, 2020 by Katran Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hubbie Marsten Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Cyrillic...???!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Katran said: Командование ВМС США решило обновить весь парк F / A-18E / F Super Hornet до новой версии Block III. Кроме того, 21 марта этого года ВМС США подписали новый контракт с Boeing на строительство 78 новых истребителей F / A-18 Super Hornet Block III. Новые самолеты должны быть введены в эксплуатацию авианосцами к 2021 году. Слухи о проблемах F-35C подтверждаются, на мой взгляд, это вторая история, как F-104, надежды были велики, а машина не удалась - «Летающий гроб». Поэтому у меня возник вопрос, может, кто-то знает, в чем внешние отличия серийной модели (их всего 7, около 5 есть информация и 2 секрета) кроме новой пилотной приборной панели, конформных топливных баков, контейнера с вооружением на центральной опоре. Первые изменения, но они не точны Первое, что меня интересует на серийной модели, это установка направляющего устройства под нос, как F-35? А как именно планер для установки был изменен системой RCS (Radar Cross Section), установка которой требовала изменения формы носовой части самолета, но позволяла улучшить работу датчиков угла атаки. Есть еще пара вопросов. но я до сих пор не понимаю, как правильно их сформулировать. I don't think that sensor made it on the Block III. The IRST is now part of the centerline fuel tank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushande Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just recently the insepector general of the German Luftwaffe visited Pax River and their Growlers and I think he also had a look at the Block-III specimen. I do wonder if we really chime into this thing as a replacement for our Tornados?! This year should eventually be interesting for those few folks who care about the matter in Germany. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Hmmm a Super Hornet in Luftwaffe camo and markings. Now that would make an interesting aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Not so sure, if the newer style then all uniform grey + not really impressive markings. Maybe in the old green scheme or blue marine one would look cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushande Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Well ... IF the Luftwaffe should really get Foxtrotts/Gulfs (and currently it at least looks a lot like it) they sure would be in a grey camo. Whether that would be overal grey or some variation of the current two-tone TPS of the Tornado remains speculation. But IF the Germans should really get them, the likelyhood of FW-51 getting them would be rather huge and well .... here's always hoping for some decent Tiger camo!!!😏 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) While the Growler is a safer choice initially since it's already there, a new variant of the Eurofighter makes much more sense in the long run, from both the logistics and tactical perspective (the new aircraft will be escorting other Eurofighters after all so having a similar kinematic performance makes more sense). Edited January 29, 2020 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushande Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) This is currently discussed to death over here. Yes, sure an ECR-Typhoon would be logical. The problem with an ECR-Typhoon is, that it is currently just a paper plane. IF!!! the government would for once be consistent in funding and following through, it would still take at least another seven or so years to actually dublicate / develop the necessary technology for a Tornado replacement. Considering the state of our Tornado fleet I say it will be a miracle if the "Toni" keeps up for that long. That just so happens if you basically ignore and neglect the need to invest in maintaining your technology base in order to keep that certain proficiency. Now we are paying the price. There's a lot of doupt that Airbus Military could really deliver what they propose in time for the Tornado fleet to bow out (and we are stretching already as it is!) given the current level of distrust between government and industry in Germany. No wonder that the inspector general had those neat pics taken of him in front of a Growler and had the Luftwaffe media put then on its social media channels. "Evil to him who thinketh evil" hihihi Edited January 28, 2020 by bushande Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collin Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 5:16 AM, bushande said: Just recently the insepector general of the German Luftwaffe visited Pax River They were there to kill the UAV effort https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2020/01/28/germany-walks-away-from-25-billion-purchase-of-us-navys-triton-spy-drones/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking News 01.28.20&utm_term=Editorial - Breaking News Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushande Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Yes, I know, typical! 🙄 What i was trying to convey is that there seems to be a preferred option within the command which is now trying to push that preferrence. Sorry text is just in German ... anyways. Bummer about the Triton though but no surprise .... https://twitt https://twitter.com/Team_Luftwaffe/status/1204841749920784385 e https://twitter.com/Team_Luftwaffe/status/1204841749920784385 r.co m/Team_Luftwaffe/status/1204841749920784385 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hemspilot Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Wait, what F-35C problems? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarathi S. Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The ones the Russians desperately want to exist so they can feel better about the Su-57 being a literal engine fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, hemspilot said: Wait, what F-35C problems? The lack of a decent kit in any scale.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hemspilot Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, habu2 said: The lack of a decent kit in any scale.... Well, the Orange Hobby is not too shabby and definitely better than the last release by Italeri. On the other hand, this Katran is a troll? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katran Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, hemspilot said: Well, the Orange Hobby is not too shabby and definitely better than the last release by Italeri. On the other hand, this Katran is a troll? And why are you insulting me? I wrote my opinion taken from various sources. F-35, all modifications, a very crude machine. With all the hopes inherent in her, they have not yet been justified. In the future, when it is brought to mind, eliminating all the shortcomings, the car should turn out to be good. But the order for a new modification of the F-18E / F talks about the problems of the F-35, which was supposed to replace the F-18. And in this topic, I did not raise the question of comparing and the quality of the machines, and where else they would be purchased, but I asked for help explaining the differences between the new F-18 modification, which I am now trying to do by creating all new parts. Maybe then a set will appear. If no one needs him here, then I will take my leave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 4:43 AM, Katran said: There are a couple more questions. but I still don’t understand how to formulate them correctly. I can help you with translation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, Katran said: ....F-35, all modifications, a very crude machine. .... Well at least the wing pylons aren’t canted..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, habu2 said: Well at least the wing pylons aren’t canted..... A pretty small comfort given that fat body design (to accommodate the vertical thrust fan on the F-35B). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hemspilot Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 The Russian mafia is here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Maybe not russian mafia but just people presenting their point of view not through the prism of patriotism? Is that flat-bottomed thingie a centerline fuel tank? Edited January 29, 2020 by Tapchan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It was a proposed "stealthy" weapons pod for the Advanced Super Hornet. -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katran Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Helmsman said: I can help you with translation. Thanks for the suggestion. But I look at this forum to get help will not work. Here they just like to criticize models and their additions, without advising or helping with the creation of the set, but then indicate where everyone is happy with the errors. About patriotism, can ardent patriots then collect models of national producers? Germans-Revell, Italians-Italeri, Russians-Zvezda, Americans-only Monogram, Tester and so on)))) And for some people over 57 years old, their brains are generally flying away, like the planes on which he flies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Well this went to excrement quick. Edited January 29, 2020 by Whiskey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Lost in translation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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