ElectroSoldier Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Can somebody please coonfirm what the FS 595A paint colours are for the MH-53J desert scheme. The Italeri kit has the colours but Im not 100% sure if they are correct as its rather difficult to get those colours in anything other than MM enamels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Dana Bell's USAF Colors and Markings in the 1990s shows them as Tan Special 20400 and Brown Special 30140 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Yes I thought it was wrong. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawg53 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Lad, if you are building the Italeri kit, make sure you reverse the tail rotor. The kit has it turning the wrong direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, hawg53 said: Lad, if you are building the Italeri kit, make sure you reverse the tail rotor. The kit has it turning the wrong direction. And modify the main rotor blades - they depict the preceding metal type... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 6:41 AM, ElectroSoldier said: Can somebody please coonfirm what the FS 595A paint colours are for the MH-53J desert scheme. The Italeri kit has the colours but Im not 100% sure if they are correct as its rather difficult to get those colours in anything other than MM enamels. https://www.hmhobbies.co.uk/mrp-233-special-brown-fs-30140-30ml.html https://www.hmhobbies.co.uk/mrp-244-tan-fs-20400-30ml.html https://ak-interactive.com/product/usaf-asia-minor-scheme/ https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?cPath=400_4_429_202_208&products_id=2153 https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?cPath=400_4_429_202_208&products_id=2154 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 9:33 PM, hawg53 said: Lad, if you are building the Italeri kit, make sure you reverse the tail rotor. The kit has it turning the wrong direction. 11 hours ago, andyf117 said: And modify the main rotor blades - they depict the preceding metal type... Yeah Ive built a few in the past, I noticed the tail rotor, I changed it and used the composite rotor blades. This is just for the paint scheme this time for something Im planning with the Revell CH-53GS. Just waiting for LS to rerelease the MH-53J sets from Cobra Company Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Does the fujini kit have the same tail rotor problem as the Italeri kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, ElectroSoldier said: Does the fujini kit have the same tail rotor problem as the Italeri kit? I don't believe so - but there's a view in some quarters that the fuselage 'shoulders' are slightly too 'square'; also, there's been a suggestion that the doghouse is slightly shallow... ....the Airfix kit(s) are widely recognised as being the best overall in 1/72 - both the CH-53 and HH-53 boxings contain the same plastic, just with different build and decal options. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Yeah Ive built a few of the Italeri kits, Airfix and Revell, the only one Ive never built is the Fujimi kit, I dont believe Ive ever even seen one. Is there a kit out there that has the sponson bracing struts of the HH-53B series? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, ElectroSoldier said: Is there a kit out there that has the sponson bracing struts of the HH-53B series? No, no-one's ever done the B... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawg53 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 It would be great if a model of the “B” version was made. However, it is understandable that none have been made as there were only 8 made. I have flown both the “B” and “C” versions and in my opinion the “B” version gave the smoothest ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 I remember there was a B version at Mildenhall but I never managed to get any snaps of it. I would like to know what the braces looked like from the side... From memory they were not round, they were flattened off tubes and there was a hump over the sponson but getting any decent photos of it to scratch something up seems difficult as all the pictures are from the front or just a poor angle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawg53 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 You are correct about the struts. They were not round but flattened out with a bit of an aerodynamic shape. I know this picture is from the front but it does show how the aux tanks are attached to the sponsons. A little history, when the Air Force wanted to make a better rescue platform than the HH-3, Sikorsky took 8 CH-53A airframes and broke them in two places. This allowed Sikorsky to beef up the structure to allow for the added weight of the aux tanks. The structure allowed the aux tanks to “float” a bit which dampened out some of the normal vibrations. Which is why I think the “B” model airframes were smoother in flight. The second H-53 I ever flew (in 1977) was HH-53B 66-14428, the last H-53 I flew (in 1996) was MH-53J 66-14428. It changed quite a bit over the years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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