Dutch Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) On 1/11/2023 at 7:51 PM, KursadA said: I am still trying to figure it out - ideally I would like to have 8 options on the 1/72 sheet but now I have 12 or 13 schemes I like. It may be a better option to find a few more (perhaps Mather options too) and do 2 sheets, separated by a month or so. Right! Maybe "Pterodactyl Courier" in the Strategic Scheme with light blue outline/titles and subdued badges on one sheet followed by "Eternal Guardian" in Gunship Gray scheme with light gray outline/titles and black outline badges. That way, If someone wanted to build the earlier version of "Eternal Guardian" or a later version of "Pterodactyl Courier" they could purchase both sheets and swap Loring markings among the options. I like it. Edited January 13, 2023 by Dutch better grammar for understanding Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dutch said: Right! Maybe "Pterodactyl Courier" in the Strategic Scheme with light blue outline/titles and subdued badges on one sheet followed by "Eternal Guardian" in Gunship Gray scheme with light gray outline/titles and black outline badges. That way, If someone wanted to build the earlier version of "Eternal Guardian" they could purchase both sheets and substitute the previous Loring markings from "Pterodactyl Courier." I like it. This is the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 10:56 PM, KursadA said: -Note that the Sawyer "rainbow" is not a rainbow at all, they seem to have used 4 approved colors (two blues, red and orange). I still need a good photo of the KI SAWYER text that needs to be added. Posted as a reference in absence of a clear photo: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/three-guys-replicas-72004-boeing-b-52h-stratofortress-late--186870 https://modelingmadness.com/scott/decals/tgr/tgr72004.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 hours ago, habu2 said: Posted as a reference in absence of a clear photo: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/three-guys-replicas-72004-boeing-b-52h-stratofortress-late--186870 https://modelingmadness.com/scott/decals/tgr/tgr72004.htm @habu2, The problem with using previous decal art for a reference is that it may not be correct, hence the need for Kursad to print accurate artwork. As you can see in the TGR sheet above, the four blue bands are all the same color. I am pretty sure that the two outer bands should be darker and the two inner bands should be lighter, using the "approved" dark & light shades of blue as used in the subdued SAC & unit badges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Still useful to see what previous sheets looked like, though - I have never seen the TGR sheet. Thanks for sharing it. Edited January 13, 2023 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Dutch said: @habu2, The problem with using previous decal art for a reference is that it may not be correct, hence the need for Kursad to print accurate artwork. As you can see in the TGR sheet above, the four blue bands are all the same color. I am pretty sure that the two outer bands should be darker and the two inner bands should be lighter, using the "approved" dark & light shades of blue as used in the subdued SAC & unit badges. All artwork is an interpretation. I'm not verifying or criticizing TGR's or Caracal's interpretations, just sharing input from an interpretation from nearly 30 years ago (the sheet has a 1994 date on the instructions) when the actual jet(s) may have been more accessible and documented. The internet images above may have been copied, compressed, altered, who knows, over the years. I own this sheet (bought it for the Carswell jet), I pulled it out and took pics with my cellphone, in direct sunlight near a window, and pulled them into an editor on my PC. Unfortunately the jpeg compression in the phone (d*mn you computational photography!) made it near impossible to measure an exact RGB from the image, even after downsizing the color count to 256. Here are crops (before color palate compression) from the tail flash on 61-0025 "Shack Rabbit", I agree the outer bands do seem to be approximately the same color: (yes the out of the phone compression and resolution is that bad) however in this crop of the nose art on 60-0057 "Something Special" I can make out a green stripe between the blue and yellow: 3 hours ago, KursadA said: Still useful to see what previous sheets looked like, though - I have never seen the TGR sheet. Thanks for sharing it. Check your email 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) @habu2, I meant no criticism whatsoever and apologize if my post sounded like it. And I agree with you that when the TGR decals were released ~30 years ago for the AMT kit, both were "state of the art." Nor do I criticize the kit, AM or decal makers at the time. They did the best with what resources they had available. (Good, Fast, Cheap; pick two of the three.) I have been building kits since the early 1970s, and was happy to call my OOTB efforts with a few aftermarket parts or decals "good enough" back in the day. But, if Kursad can make an accurate decal for whatever subject, God bless him and the whole modeling community. I may be better served selling my entire stash and then just purchasing one at a time: the best kit, AM, and decals for one project and just finish it before repeating the steps for the next project. It would save a ton of storage space. 🤪 And yes, "Someplace Special" did have a full color rainbow on the nose, so that is correct. Edited February 14, 2023 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UNLISTED Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Here's the rainbow from the Expert's Choice 135 sheet. Been holding off on using my Three Guys Replicas one waiting for this one to be released. The rainbow from Italeri's is way off too. Edited January 16, 2023 by UNLISTED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fessSto Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Coming late to this party. I appreciate you covering one of my favorite subjects, Kursad, especially the jets based at KI Sawyer and Wurtsmith. I was actually at the KI Sawyer museum this past summer and wish I would have been turned on to this thread then as they still have a useful library there with many one of a kind photos (in old school albums) that may have had some useful photos. Too little, too late. For what it's worth here are some photos from the museum sign with the rainbow though I am not sure they checked reference photos when painting the signs. Looking forward to these releases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, fessSto said: Coming late to this party. I appreciate you covering one of my favorite subjects, Kursad, especially the jets based at KI Sawyer and Wurtsmith. I was actually at the KI Sawyer museum this past summer and wish I would have been turned on to this thread then as they still have a useful library there with many one of a kind photos (in old school albums) that may have had some useful photos. Too little, too late. For what it's worth here are some photos from the museum sign with the rainbow though I am not sure they checked reference photos when painting the signs. Looking forward to these releases. Also would live some 1/48 87 FIS F-106 decals someday. I want to there some day also. Grew up in Wisconsin and spent many vacations in northern Wisconsin, their 52’s were always flying overhead. AF recruiter out of Green Bay did take some of us delayed recruits to the air shows in 92 and 93. I bet that museum has some awesome pictures. Not sure if it’s too late for Kursad to contact the museum. Some photos show a lot of models in it. Am sure they would be interested in some after market decals. https://kishamuseum.org/ Edited February 8, 2023 by USAFsparkchaser Add info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Ten options on CD72097 - coming in April. Soo much work went into this - hopefully you will like it. Obviously there are separate sheets for stencilling and serial numbers - almost identical to the setup of CD72077. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gator52 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Wow, looks fantastic! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Beautiful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fessSto Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 *Sigh*. Looks like I'm going to have to buy another B-52. 😏 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fessSto Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 ...or ten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 OUTSTANDING!!!!! I’ll buy 4!!!!!!!!!!’ Jolly Roger and Strat Rex👍👍👍👍👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Oh and can’t wait for 1/144 so I can build all the other options on the sheet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 @KursadA, One minor point, but if you look at the photos of "Big Stick" on page 2 of this thread posted by fasteagle, on the starboard side, the caveman faces forward, so you will have to flip one of the caveman left to right on the sheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Thanks - I noticed it this morning when I was doing a completeness check. It was really late when I shared the draft image 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 YES!!!! This is huge! Thank you so much for doing this sheet! I know we were a pain in your butt sometimes Kursad, same with Dark Vark sheet probably, but you came through AGAIN! I probably sound a bit over the top but man, this makes me happy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Let’s see what we have covered so far, Castle, Carswell, Wurtsmith, KI Sawyer, Blytheville, Griffess, Loring. Is it too soon to ask for SAC Minot, Fairchild next? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 With the material that Chris and everyone else helpfully sent me, there are enough subjects for at least one more sheet like this. If this one sells fast enough I will be motivated to release another SAC B-52G/H sheet as soon as this is sold out. But the next B-52 sheet I will release will be the "tall tail" sheet in both 1/72 and 1/144 in summer; and another current/recent -H sheet in the fall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Any chance of shrinking this one down to 1/144 over the summer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, KursadA said: With the material that Chris and everyone else helpfully sent me, there are enough subjects for at least one more sheet like this. If this one sells fast enough I will be motivated to release another SAC B-52G/H sheet as soon as this is sold out. But the next B-52 sheet I will release will be the "tall tail" sheet in both 1/72 and 1/144 in summer; and another current/recent -H sheet in the fall. Sounds awesome.! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Any chance of shrinking this one down to 1/144 over the summer? I SECOND THAT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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