crackerjazz Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hi, here's my second attempt at a 747 - on a real Hasegawa kit this time. I'll be using AV-O's beautiful flap set. I made the mistake of curving the wings on the Hobbycraft and couldn't figure out how the slats would conform to the curved leading edge so I had to shelve that project. I'll also make sure to block out the windows on this build and use the decals. I haven't decided on a livery yet but here's the Hasegawa kit I got: The Hobbycraft fuselage had surface undulations that needed correcting. This Hasegawa fuselage looks awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vidar 710 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 CJ, lid you have the flap set, mind sharing a few pics? Tracy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Hi Tracy, here are a couple pics... It's been a while -- I'll have to orient myself with the parts again, do the cleanup and fix the broken rods. I think I lost some parts -- might have to do some scratchbuilding but having the set surely beats having to scratchbuild every single one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Got an exploded view -- thanks, AV-O! It can be dizzying to look at all the parts, figuring out assembly and making sense of it so this helps a lot in seeing the big picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vidar_710 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yeah... Gonna have to get a set of these! Thnx CJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckyJames72 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 The flap set looks fantastic, where can you get them? Try a search with AV-O but no luck. Thanks Chucky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 Hi, Chucky, thanks! Here's a link to AV-O's thread. Send him a PM, it's a great set! Hasegawa 1/200th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckyJames72 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks a million, will do, the model looks absolutely fantastic. Good luck on your build, looking forward to your Boeing 747. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Hi, time to continue this build... In my mind I thought I'd already made some good progress as far as the fuselage. Then I remembered that was the Hobbycraft. I'm basically back to zero. I was backreading on old threads about using clear glue on the windows after the build instead of decals and someone said they have to be thinned down or you'll end up with sunken windows. I tried sanding them down but it was taking too long. Tried scraping with the handle of a paint brush and that worked, somehow. My only casualties were these two windows because at some point I still thought it was taking too long and decided to use a dremel and wire wheel and not realizing that the spot was starting to melt I ended up with this -- will have to figure out how repair them with some sheet styrene. I ditched the wire wheel and had to go back to scraping and sanding. You can see how thin I was able to bring them down to compared to the upper level windows. The light is starting to shine through the plastic. I don't really know how thin they should be for the glue webbing to work well and prevent sunken windows -- I figured eggshell-thin would be good but I have to be careful not to scrape/sand too much and poke through the wall. Will also have to use some light-blocking paint before I close up the shell halves. Edited December 2, 2021 by crackerjazz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Nice to see some progress the walls look thin enough to me. 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Thanks, Ray! That didn't work too well. I realize I'm not skillful at all at making these clear glue windows: I tried cleaning up the sides right after applying the glue but the webbing would pop. Tried the cleanup using a wet cotton bud after it had dried but no dice. The glue is hard when set. I may have better luck at drawing the shades down on some windows for a semi-realistic look. Just wondering about how to mask them for painting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avn Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 All windows look clear and almost perfect. May I ask how to cover these windows from outside and what type of clear glue you use for these windows. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Hi avn, the windows are still open but I'll be trying out Elmer's glue as suggested in another thread. A few other options I'm thinking about -- there's this product: Window Pro -- and I'm wondering, too, what would happen if I cut up little pieces of acetate on the Cricut. In the last pic was sonething I thought was an easy way out -- plain styrene strips glued to the back to simulate drawn shades. But looking at pics of the real aircraft you don't really see the drawn shades too well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avn Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Thanks for answering my question. Looking forward to your beautiful WIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 No worries, avn. Hope I can do the windows justice. I found a bigger brass tube for gutting the fuse : ) Keeping the edge sharp does wonders, too. For half an hour I was scraping without much happening. And when I tried the other end of the brass tube I noticed it was sharper and it just ate away at the plastic with every stroke -- so satisfying : ) It's a messy affair : ) All for want of thinner windows. Once in a while I stop and ask myself why I'm so hell-bent on doing this : ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 I've been trying to decide for the longest time whether to paint the insides with some dark paint. I don't have a choice now, as I've glued the shell halves together. I really regret it but I'll charge it to experience and carry on. Will use some Easy-sanding CA on the seams. That fuselage looks really good though. Just look at those clean lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) I have a little problem, @AV O. I couldn't find the old Hobbycraft wings that I've cut and bent before that I intend to use for this build so I need to start over. I'm cutting the Hasegawa wings right now and ran into a hitch on a section of the wing. It's this section right here. I'm cutting along this line -- and I'm expecting the other side to somehow match the edge of the control surface.. But as you can see, it's a couple mm from the edge of the control surface when I check underneath --- I don't understand why that is. Am I doing it right? I can't recall what I did on the Hobbycraft - if I ran into the same issue. I remember it was rather uneventful. Edited February 12, 2022 by crackerjazz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 Anyway... slogged ahead.. I hope I'm on the right track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cubs2jets Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 The leading edge of the flaps you are cutting away rest under the trailing edge of the top skin / spoilers thus the bottom leading edge of the flap sections is further forward. You can see in the last picture the small amount of flap that still needs to be cut away. Looking at this picture, you can see from the rub marks just how much of the flap is under the top skin / spoiler when retracted. C2j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Hi crakerjazz. This is your former thread. You may see how you worked before. It may ring you a bell to where you put the parts away : http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/297006-1200-hobbycraft-747-100/ Edited February 12, 2022 by AV O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Hi C2j, thanks for the reply I hope I'm doing this right. Hi AV O my memory must be going. I'm really still confused at the moment but I'll keep posting pics of my progress, and if you spot anything wrong just stop me. And sorry about all the questions -- I may have to keep bugging you guys. Once I get this down pat, I should probably create a step-by-step with lots of pics posterity's sake, haha. And for myself, too -- I envision a couple more 747 buiilds in different liveries. I just can't remember how I did things in the past - and especially for something like this -- I just know I won't remember any of it later on without pictures to guide me. I'm preserving what I can in case I need to glue parts of it back on. Is this part supposed to go on here? And am I supposed to cut this way? (or do I need to leave a strip at the leading edge?) Edited February 13, 2022 by crackerjazz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GSymmonds Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Some pics in this might help - I'd say the curved end is outboard (pic on page 18). Let e know if you can't see the file and I'll figure out how to get it to you some other way - it's a collection of info I put together for when I get to doing one myself! Graham 1304968791_747FlapAssembly.docx Edited February 13, 2022 by GSymmonds Changed inboard to outboard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Hi Graham, it says unavailable, but I would love to see it. I'll take all the help I can get : ) Let me send you my email : ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GSymmonds Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Sent over to you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Thanks so much, Graham : ) The photos help a lot! I've cut away the Krueger flaps. They're named after Freddie Krueger because you'll be mangling the wings and your fingers if you're not careful with the Xacto and saw blades. Just kidding : ) Regarding the outboard fairings I didn't have to cut them away completely. But they're still intact on the other wing. Rounded the curved ends using the cutting wheel. The cuts near the wing root appear curved in the photos because of the wing profile but they're really straight (square cuts). I think I'm making good progress : ) Thanks again for all the help, guys! Will familiarize myself more with the references and parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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