Devinelounge Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hello, are there any F-16 builders here that could advise on the best 1:48 Hasegawa kit to use to make a block 30 F-16 (I'm looking to start a build using the twobobs 482nd Fighter Wing Florida Makos sheet). I have a couple of spare F-16CJ Block 50 kits, and a F-16 C Night Falcon kit. Can I get away with using one of these? Thank you! -Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 The CJ kit should have all you need. Use the GE engine nozzle and the original unbulged main gear doors. The inlet depends on if you’re building an early or late Blk 30. Both NSI & MCID inlets should be included in the CJ kit. Post a tail # and we can tell which inlet to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Not Tamiya? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 OP asked specifically about Hasegawa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eraucubsfan Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just out of curiosity is there a table that shows what kits can make what blocks of F-16s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Hi all, thanks for replies. Is the Tamiya considered a superior kit? I have 3 Hasegawas in my stash. I'm returning to models after a hiatus, and figured if I can save money using one I already have that would be perfect. Habu2 - regarding which inlets to use - does the attached help? Also, do you know what a 'standard' training loadout might look like? I'd like to add something besdies just the external tanks for visual interest. I can't find any pictures of this specific aircraft with anything but the external tanks, but have found other pics of 93 FS Makoes with training loadouts that maybe will be a good start. Perhaps, after I find a picture I can post here - may need help to ID what's loaded. Lastly, does anyone know what the appropriate tint to apply to the canopy would be? To my eyes, it looks like the front is a mix between gold/smoke and the rear piece almost clear... Sorry for all the questions, but I really appreciate the replies here! 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I only mentioned Tamiya above because IMHO their F-16s are significantly better than Hasegawa's and, like many of their other kits, are an engineering/building experience not to be missed. OTOH, if you've got the Hasegawa kits in your stash, they're certainly worth building. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Thanks seawinder, you have me curious now. Does the Tamiya kit have everything for a block 30? I see one kit (TAM61098). Is that the go-to one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbryan911 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/148-aircraft/f-16cn-aggressoradversary/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, jbryan911 said: https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/148-aircraft/f-16cn-aggressoradversary/ I agree the Tamiya kit is superior to the Hasegawa kit, and the specific boxing above has all the parts to build any 25/30/32/40/42/50/52 (but not 52+) as long as your specific build does not require the parabrake tail extension. There are so many similarities shared between the Tamiya and Kinetic kits that you can kitbash details from the Kinetic kit like the tail extension, dorsal spine, CFTs, even the two-seat canopy/cockpit to make the Tamiya kit into any flavor of Viper. The Hasegawa kits are still pretty darned nice though, especially considering the design and the molds are almost 40 years old... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 87-290 is a GE/MCID "Big Mouth" jet. You'll find this link very informative for anything F-16. https://www.usaf-sig.org/index.php/component/content/article/82-f-16-viper-faq-stuff-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-f-16cd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Thanks for the link Jbryan911 and info habu2. I've never built a Tamiya kit before, so I ordered one to see how it compares to prior Hasegawa builds I've done. We'll see how this goes, first build in 10 years or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Confirming 87-0290 is a Block 30H so GE/MCID combo. Most Hasegawa C/D kits have the GE engine (sprues H & L) but not all have the MCID inlet (sprue T) . Edited April 8, 2020 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 GE/MCID inlet started with F-16C 86-0262 and F-16D 86-0044. All GE Vipers following these serial have the "big mouth". So easy to see from the serial alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Hello, does any know if 87290 has wing strenghtening plates? I can make out fuselage strengthening plates, but am having a hard seeing if it has the wing strenghtening plates and or/RAM panels? I'd like to use the appropriate after market pieces on my build. Kind regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alternative 4 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just remember with the Tamiya kit to sand off the wing root bulges Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 87-290 definitely has RAM panels fitted for this period. As for wing strengthening plates, I would’ve imagined that both wing and fuselage were done at the same time(someone else will know for sure). Infact I’ve looked again and wing plates are fitted, you can just make out the round part at the rear of the plate, although they’re not as protrusive as the fuselage plates. Edited May 8, 2020 by scotthldr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Thanks, good eye. What about this forward vent. I'm not seeing this in the Tamiya instructions...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 The forward vent should be part A3, and is shown in step 24 or 27 depending on what kit you have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Do guys know what is a good tool is to rescribe the small rivet holes on the forward fusealge that surround the joint that meets the nose cone? I'm having to do a bit more sanding than I would have liked to get a smooth transition to the nose cone on this Tamiya kit, and am starting to lose some of these rivets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achterkirch Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Try using a really fine drill bit. That works some times Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devinelounge Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Thanks! I ended up using a sewing needle for this part and worked out pretty well 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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