Dutch Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) On 6/17/2021 at 11:27 AM, GeneK said: OK, let's try this: https://nara.getarchive.net/media/a-judge-observes-a-weapons-technician-as-he-works-on-a-191st-fighter-interceptor-e51597 or this: GeneK, Beautiful photo there! I find it interesting for a number of reasons, particularly the details that jump out at the viewer upon careful study. I'd like to point out the yellow & black checkers on the port splitter plate [red oval]. From the angle, I cannot tell if I am looking at the interior (i.e. back side) or exterior surface of the splitter plate. It really does look like the interior side to me. If the interior side, the backsides of the splitter plates will require yellow & black checkers as well as the exterior surfaces. What do you think? Is it indeed the exterior side and the angle just looks funny because of the forced perspective? Kind regards, Dutch Edited June 22, 2021 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Okay, I admit, my eyes are going bad! Or rather, my eyes are fine, but my mind is going bad! Maybe a case of both. So I looked at the photo more closely and determined that the photographer must have used, not a fish-eye lens, but a shorter focal length lens (i.e. not a zoom lens) which makes the angles on the right difficult to compare because the center point of the nose is not the center of the photograph. After looking at the angles of the lower edge of the splitter plate (see red arrows), it appears that we are indeed looking at the exterior side of the splitter plate. If we were looking at the inner side, the right arrow would be pointing toward the lower right. So everyone can stand down on buying two sets of decals so they can decal the inner edge also. It's official, I am cross-eyed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Baldwin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dutch said: Looks like if your a stickler for the details, you will have to use a mirror like metal finish on the front tips of your inboard wing pylons, wing tanks and engine intake leading edges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Craig, don't forget the forward strut oleo! 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Even that blade antenna on the forward nose-gear door! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Radome is also rather shiny. Noticed that in the thread regarding black-bellied Phantoms, too. Some pretty shiny radomes there as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dutch said: It's official, I am cross-eyed! Maybe I am too, but I can't get my mind to accept your conclusion that the painting, as improbable as it seems, isn't on the inside. Nice riddle, thanks. Gene K Edited June 22, 2021 by GeneK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clumsy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Here is the photo that was mentioned by Fine Molds which is in the Feb.1983 Koku-Fan. Accept my apologize for the mark up; simple intention of eliminating the CR stuff: I just received the copy from eBay, hence I can share it now. Sorry for the delay. Edited June 23, 2021 by clumsy Text addition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, clumsy said: Here is the photo that was mentioned by Fine Molds which is in the Feb.1983 Koku-Fan. [showing the non-standard wing walkways] Thanks very much!! Are there other Michigan ANG Phantoms in that issue (is it worth searching for to purchase?)? Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 That is an excellent photo showing perfectly clear that 07 and 10 have the wing walk way in that peculiar shape as illustrated by FineMolds decal. What was the reason for having it this way is anybody’s guess. It is perfectly clear that 06 and 08 next to 7 and 10 have the standard walk way. Strange things sometimes can be right. Hats down to FineMolds designers! Note that the year is 1982 for the William Tell 82 event! What happened later is a good question. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clumsy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 GeneK, there is dedicated section of 4 pages with 7 photos for the general view of the respective planes and another set of 7 photos dedicated to some of the nosearts. They are all in colour. Most of the general view shots are for the number 10. IMHO it is a good base for reference. But this is subjective. Ya-Gabor, I am not that surprised. Please check the wingwalks of the number 06. The end of the line gets close to the fuselage, it does not go straight back as the others. Also the placement of the insignias and USAF stencil on the wings and fuselage shows difference. All this in perspective makes me think that the quality assurance in those days had not been so much cared about:))) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clumsy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 By the way, the name of Mr. Don Spering from A.I.R is written in the index for the respective section. If someone has a connection with him he might be requested for more help for a higher resolution of the photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 hours ago, clumsy said: By the way, the name of Mr. Don Spering from A.I.R is written in the index for the respective section. If someone has a connection with him he might be requested for more help for a higher resolution of the photos. Don Spering passed away in 2017..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 clumsy, Thanks for the description of the Koku Fan issue. I don't really need it ... but I just ordered one from ebay. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Baldwin Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Included along side their late summer releases of short nose Phantoms, you will find these Finemolds weapon sets irresistible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Test of the test shot : ) : ) FineMolds: The factory manager is a fresh squirrel US Army Aircraft Missile Set 2 ('60s-'70s) https://finemolds.co.jp/FP/FP44.html Assembly check is underway at T0 (Tee Zero = a tri-shot that is difficult to explain as a tri-shot before the tri-shot). For the time being, it looks good Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) On 7/15/2021 at 1:43 PM, ya-gabor said: The factory manager is a fresh squirrel Well ... here's another fresh/brash squirrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANwb_qT1gg Gene K Edited July 17, 2021 by GeneK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Has anyone seen kit numbers for the 'short' nose birds?? I just picked up their new E and it's Phabulous!!!!! So now must get my NSLHS to get on the order band wagon!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Flyboyf18 said: Has anyone seen kit numbers for the 'short' nose birds?? In August (shortly) the following two “short nose” will be released: FP43S F-4J FP46S F-4C In September these two will follow: FP47S F-4D 72843 F-4J And the new weapons sets to go with them as well as all others: FP44 US weapons set / pylons 60-70’s FP45 US weapons set bombs / pylons 60’s Have fun! Stay Safe!!! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, ya-gabor said: And the new weapons sets to go with them as well as all others: FP44 US weapons set / pylons 60-70’s FP45 US weapons set bombs / pylons 60’s Weapons sets are scheduled for August release. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Looks like the missile set FP44 is ready for mass production. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I finally received the F-4E early (Vietnam) a couple of days ago and was kinda surprised that the kit provides NO ordnance. So we gotta buy the weapons set. I guess that's OK as I became used to that marketing method with the Hasegawa kits. But with limited availability of FineMolds in the U.S. (unlike Hasegawa) and long waiting period for orders from Japan to reach here, this is going to be a long process.😐 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 11:54 AM, Paul Boyer said: But with limited availability of FineMolds in the U.S. (unlike Hasegawa) and long waiting period for orders from Japan to reach here, this is going to be a long process.😐 Of course the wait depends on how bad one wants a particular kit/kits (meaning how much one is willing to pay for postage). Before the current resumption of EMS and other less expensive shipping options, I selected FedEx and received my first five FM kits three days after they were available from Hobby Link Japan. Shipping was $35 to Florida ... expensive, but I rationalized that was only $7 shipping per kit. Ordering from HLJ using Private Warehouse is a great way to ensure you have a kit available as soon as it's released (providing you placed the order before "Stop Order" is declared). HLJ will notify you when your kit is in your Warehouse, and you then select one of the available shipping options when you are ready to have it shipped. As an example, In August I'll wait until the FM C and J kits, as well as the 2 weapons sets are ALL in my Private Warehouse, and then have them shipped in one package. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The first short nose is just around the corner. : ) : ) Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Quick test build of the future F-4D Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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