Da SWO Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Trojan Thunder said: The shape of the Italeri J model engine is off, as with the E/H engines they are too short and stubby. Thanks. my 130's are 3-4 models away from start, looks like I'll need a lot of after market parts. Ebay here I come! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 I wonder if they will also release a C-130J version. As it is I am happy to see a new tool C-130H, and it coming from Zvezda I feel it will be rather nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 13 hours ago, ElectroSoldier said: I wonder if they will also release a C-130J version. As it is I am happy to see a new tool C-130H, and it coming from Zvezda I feel it will be rather nice. The initial comments from Zvezda on their FB page was that only one version would be released. We will have to see it they change their minds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Trojan Thunder said: The initial comments from Zvezda on their FB page was that only one version would be released. We will have to see it they change their minds. They’re making a completely new C-130 mold and just going to make one version from it? That seems extremely wasteful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 With Zvezda I dont know. They might decide to go with just a C-130H if they can get enough of a return out of it and move on to the next project. I know a lot of people were thrown by what they do, I mean how many swore blind they were making a C-130J... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 So glad they didnt do the J. The sky is the limit with E/H renditions from Ski equipped air guard kits to gunships. Cant believe its taken so long to get a new tool Herk if Kinetic had done this instead of a unwieldy hugely expensive C17 that nobody can build due space they would of been up to the 5th C130 boxing by now and counting their cash. Great work Zvezda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I'll look forward to the Herk, but I really WANT and NEED the C-17! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Kenetic plan a C-17. 3 hours ago, dehowie said: So glad they didnt do the J. The sky is the limit with E/H renditions from Ski equipped air guard kits to gunships. Cant believe its taken so long to get a new tool Herk if Kinetic had done this instead of a unwieldy hugely expensive C17 that nobody can build due space they would of been up to the 5th C130 boxing by now and counting their cash. Great work Zvezda. Yes thats why Ive been waiting all this time, I built an Airfix AC-130H years ago followed by a couple of the Italeri kits of verious types and always ended up slightly disapointed by the kits over all. I have high hopes for Zvezda on this one, I have so many decals... The white Blue Angels C-130, an L Ski 130, a few MC-130s and EC-130E & H. Just need a decent kit for them all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Didn't Kinetic announce on their FB page they had cancelled the C-17 project Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 If they did I missed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ESzczesniak Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I think I saw it got placed on “indefinite hold”. I saw this shortly after the Trumpeter 1/32 B-24 was released with a statement saying they felt the large scale market was saturated at the time and modelers didn’t have the cash for such a large kit after buying all these other big kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 hours ago, mungo1974 said: Didn't Kinetic announce on their FB page they had cancelled the C-17 project I saw something to that effect on a FB thread for another subject. The C-17 is not economically viable so it is not going to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 So back onto the C-130H then. Do you guys think that all the conversions and updates designed for the Italeri kit will be compatible with the Zvezda kit? I mean things like the Flightpath conversions to make an LC-130 or MC-130P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 hours ago, dehowie said: So glad they didnt do the J. The sky is the limit with E/H renditions from Ski equipped air guard kits to gunships. Cant believe its taken so long to get a new tool Herk if Kinetic had done this instead of a unwieldy hugely expensive C17 that nobody can build due space they would of been up to the 5th C130 boxing by now and counting their cash. Great work Zvezda. for some odd reason, the C130h has been an all-time favorite with Special Forces. Some were modified for various tasks as well. Most folks think of it as either a cargo hauler or a gun ship, but that's not the truth. gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da SWO Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 hours ago, ChesshireCat said: for some odd reason, the C130h has been an all-time favorite with Special Forces. Some were modified for various tasks as well. Most folks think of it as either a cargo hauler or a gun ship, but that's not the truth. gary The J model has replaced the E/H/P/N models. I think COMPASS CALL and the LC-130, are the only non-J specialty 130's left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koen L Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Da SWO said: The J model has replaced the E/H/P/N models. I think COMPASS CALL and the LC-130, are the only non-J specialty 130's left. The MC-130H is still in service, as is the AC-130W. Edited June 3, 2020 by Koen L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Najk Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 4:24 AM, Da SWO said: The J model has replaced the E/H/P/N models. I think COMPASS CALL and the LC-130, are the only non-J specialty 130's left. Maybe in the US, but there are many other countries still flying the C-130H.. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 8:35 AM, ElectroSoldier said: So back onto the C-130H then. Do you guys think that all the conversions and updates designed for the Italeri kit will be compatible with the Zvezda kit? I mean things like the Flightpath conversions to make an LC-130 or MC-130P I expect if not a drop in replacement that you could adjust the fit. You are adding replacement noses or larger antenna fairings with these conversions so I think they will work fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Trojan Thunder said: I expect if not a drop in replacement that you could adjust the fit. You are adding replacement noses or larger antenna fairings with these conversions so I think they will work fine. Yeah... I mean with enough cutting and filling you can get any thing to fit on anything. I mean I could get a Tornado GR1 nose cone onto the front of a C-130 if I wanted to. What I really mean is do you think the size and shape of the new kit will allow a nice relatively painless fit of the parts designed to fit the Italeri kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Certain conversions wont matter what version of the plane they go one, the C-Scale EC-130E and H conversion for instance, but do you think the Flightpath nose will match up? on the MC-130H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 hours ago, ElectroSoldier said: Certain conversions wont matter what version of the plane they go one, the C-Scale EC-130E and H conversion for instance, but do you think the Flightpath nose will match up? on the MC-130H The only way to absolutely know is to get the Zvezda kit on release and try it. I know that the Esci/AMT C-130 has a different width/profile nose to that of the Italeri kit that most conversion sets of that kind were created for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Thats exactly what made me think. A few years ago I tried to fit a roman nose radome to a ESCI C-130 to convert it into an early model but the nose wouldnt fit, the profile of the body of the model was different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 hours ago, ElectroSoldier said: Thats exactly what made me think. A few years ago I tried to fit a roman nose radome to a ESCI C-130 to convert it into an early model but the nose wouldnt fit, the profile of the body of the model was different. Esci/AMT on the left, Italeri on the right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 Its a good illustration of the problem I had. The nose was to small, it simply wasnt possible to fit it. In the end I put the nose back on and built it as a C-130H, which is the only time I built a C-130H as a C-130H 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Zvezda has finally posted some sprue shots of the new kit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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