mrvark Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Okay, I give up, what is this thing? I looked at the kit instructions and what books I have on the Flogger and can't figure out what it is or where it goes. Does it only go on certain types of MiG-23 or all of them? What about the MIG-27? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I believe it is supposed to be a start cart (ground support equipment). TS21 is a small turbine engine, probably contained in the start cart. http://www.terrafirmajets.co.uk/ts21.htm There are numerous youtube videos where people have used these to power everything from gocarts to BMWs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) That doesn't look like a cart, but like more detailed intake and exhaust parts for the TS-21 APU installed internally on the MiG-23, I presume. As for the original question, I'd presume it's present on all MiG-23 and MiG-27 variants as most of them used variants of the same R-29 engine which used TS-21 APU as a starter. Not sure about the earliest variants with the R-27 engines, though. Edited May 26, 2020 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ijozic said: . . . more detailed intake and exhaust parts for the TS-21 APU installed internally on the MiG-23, I presume. Yes Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digit Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Here is plenty of info - not just for MiG-23 🙂: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Those guys are insane!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Just in case anyone else was wondering where the hell this gizmo goes on the Flogger. It is definitely useful with Trumpeter's MiG-23M (kit 2853). It can also be used on MiG-23ML (kit 2855) or the MiG-27 (kit 5802), but the detail on these two kits is better than on the -23M, so it is not really needed on them. Edited June 11, 2020 by mrvark Applicability on Trumpeter kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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