dai phan Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Hello all, After 2 consecutive 1/48 Hasegawa kits F-104 and A7, I decided to hold on the AMK 1/48 Fouga and try something simple and quick built. I have always liked the T33 and I would like to know which kit is better in terms of building and accuracy. The scale is 1/48. Thank you so very much! Dai Edited May 25, 2020 by dai phan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpk Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 GWH by miles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Never built the GWH, but you can buy 3 or 4 Academy / Hobby-craft T-33 for the price of one GWH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jabow Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 The GWH kit is better; BUT, I'm currently building this kit and wish I had the Academy one. The GWH kit will NOT be a simply build. My 2 cents worth, if that. Bo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Eventually I plan on building one of my old squadron's T-33s. I already have the Academy kit and decals that I need. I have never built or even seen one any great wall kits, so what is the problem with them or it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 The old Hobbycraft/Academy T-33 is a caricature of the real thing. FOX3 IIRC sold a correction set that basically consisted of a whole new resin fuselage. Yes the GWH kit is more expensive. But if you put a value on your time, it is cheaper that dealing with the Academy kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 11 hours ago, jabow said: The GWH kit is better; BUT, I'm currently building this kit and wish I had the Academy one. The GWH kit will NOT be a simply build. My 2 cents worth, if that. Bo What seems to be the problems? Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I have the Academy kit in my stash, are you saying it’s not worth the effort? I only found one online review and it wasn’t that unkind.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 It's your hobby. Do as you please. Here is a more comprehensive list of the problems. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974215-uruguay-lockheed-t-33-148-conversion-from-monogram-f-80/& Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Cameron Lynch said: It's your hobby. Do as you please. Here is a more comprehensive list of the problems. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974215-uruguay-lockheed-t-33-148-conversion-from-monogram-f-80/& Too bad nothing was posted since 2015. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 hours ago, habu2 said: I have the Academy kit in my stash, are you saying it’s not worth the effort? I only found one online review and it wasn’t that unkind.... The Academy IS the Hobby Craft kit, and one of Hobby Crafts best kits. Not perfect, but builds into a sonvincing T-33. Here is a bunch of Hobby Craft / Academy CT-133s, a couple Testors and even an Aurora. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I bought the cockpit set for the academy kit a long time ago, so I already have money invested in the kit. Still, I will check on the other kit and the reviews. I still may just go with what I have and scratch build its E.C.M. pod, or whatever it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Yes, it is one of Hobbycraft's better efforts. So what? I still own a dozen Hobbycraft kits, and used to have many more than that. But like most of the kits in Hobbycraft's catalog, the 1/48 Sea Fury kit, the 1/48 Bf 109 kits, the 1/48 F4U Corsair kits, the 1/48 P-40B/C Tomahawk, etc., they have each been surpassed. Like the kits I have mentioned, and many that I did not, the venerable Hobbycraft 1/48 T-33 kit has been eclipsed by a newer kit that is demonstrably more accurate, better engineered and better fitting. The Hobbycraft T-33 is a caricature of the real thing. It is curved where it should be straight and straight where it should be curved and once you see the error you can never "unsee" it. Is the GWH kit perfect, I wouldn't say that. Is the GWH kit more expensive than the HC kit? Yes...it's also about 25 years newer and inflation is a female dog. But in a cost/brain damage scatter plot, the GWH kit is great value for money compared to the Hobbycraft kit. We only have one shot at this mortal coil...and we can all only build a finite amount of kits before we are pushing up the daisies. It will take you less time and give you a more satisfying outcome if you start with a better kit. So save yourself more time, and more brain damage...and pick up one of the excellent GWH T-33 kits. Cameron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Lynch Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 7 hours ago, dai phan said: Too bad nothing was posted since 2015. Dai What is your point? The errors and inaccuracies of the Hobbycraft/Academy kit are still the same five years later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Cameron Lynch said: What is your point? The errors and inaccuracies of the Hobbycraft/Academy kit are still the same five years later. Of course the errors are still there but I was looking forward to the completion of the project and correction of errors as many others. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Cameron Lynch said: Yes, it is one of Hobbycraft's better efforts. So what? I still own a dozen Hobbycraft kits, and used to have many more than that. But like most of the kits in Hobbycraft's catalog, the 1/48 Sea Fury kit, the 1/48 Bf 109 kits, the 1/48 F4U Corsair kits, the 1/48 P-40B/C Tomahawk, etc., they have each been surpassed. Like the kits I have mentioned, and many that I did not, the venerable Hobbycraft 1/48 T-33 kit has been eclipsed by a newer kit that is demonstrably more accurate, better engineered and better fitting. The Hobbycraft T-33 is a caricature of the real thing. It is curved where it should be straight and straight where it should be curved and once you see the error you can never "unsee" it. Is the GWH kit perfect, I wouldn't say that. Is the GWH kit more expensive than the HC kit? Yes...it's also about 25 years newer and inflation is a female dog. But in a cost/brain damage scatter plot, the GWH kit is great value for money compared to the Hobbycraft kit. We only have one shot at this mortal coil...and we can all only build a finite amount of kits before we are pushing up the daisies. It will take you less time and give you a more satisfying outcome if you start with a better kit. So save yourself more time, and more brain damage...and pick up one of the excellent GWH T-33 kits. Cameron That is why I went ahead with the GWH one. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jabow Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/26/2020 at 8:25 PM, dai phan said: What seems to be the problems? Dai On my build, the nose cone was undersized compared to the fuselage. During dry fitting, I noticed that step present, so during assembly, used a sanding stick to ensure no plastic bits were left to keep the major two-piece fuselage from fitting snug together!! Nothing is worst than a prominent part with a step!! Did manage to sand and file down the fuselage so that step isn't, hopefully, too visible. About ready to shoot final coat of NMF, so we'll see. Bo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I picked up my Academy kit years ago at a price I could not pass up. The decal sheet looks nice but I have not even removed parts from the bags. It's not a subject I'm particularly passionate about so I can live with any inaccuracies, especially for the price I paid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Sometimes price matters. I bought 6 a couple years back at 5 bucks each. Would not mind trying the new wunderkit, just don't have many schemes left I need to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 You could always do ome of the Interceptor squadrons from the 80s, the 48th, 318th, or mine, the 5th. Their high gloss colore look good against the same grey on their F-106s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 14 hours ago, jabow said: On my build, the nose cone was undersized compared to the fuselage. During dry fitting, I noticed that step present, so during assembly, used a sanding stick to ensure no plastic bits were left to keep the major two-piece fuselage from fitting snug together!! Nothing is worst than a prominent part with a step!! Did manage to sand and file down the fuselage so that step isn't, hopefully, too visible. About ready to shoot final coat of NMF, so we'll see. Bo Bo, can I see your built so far? Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, ikar said: You could always do ome of the Interceptor squadrons from the 80s, the 48th, 318th, or mine, the 5th. Their high gloss colore look good against the same grey on their F-106s. Helicopter ??? We are talking about T33 here. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jabow Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, dai phan said: Bo, can I see your built so far? Dai Won't be able to see anything. In primer, and mask. I'm building this one 'when I get around to it'!! LOL!! Bo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 51 minutes ago, jabow said: Won't be able to see anything. In primer, and mask. I'm building this one 'when I get around to it'!! LOL!! Bo That sounds like it will be forgotten. I hope mine is not as bad. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 IMO the GWH T-33 is a very quick build for a 1/48 jet: https://jonbryon.com/great-wall-hobby-1-48-lockheed-t-33a-shooting-star/ Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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