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Anyone know what dimensions of RB-47H Silver King Pod is?

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Building the RB-47H in 1/144 and would like to add the Silver King pod on the starboard side.   I've done a search on the interweb and can't find a thing that says how long or what the diameter of the pod was.   I guess I could always use the old Mk 1 Eyeball and guess based on the length of engine pod but thought maybe someone had this info.

Don

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You can use a photo to measure the pod length and fuselage length, calculate the fraction, and multiply that by the kit's fuselage length. Same for the diameters. Preferably you do that with a few photos to average your measurements.

 

Rob

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8 hours ago, Rob de Bie said:

You can use a photo to measure the pod length and fuselage length, calculate the fraction, and multiply that by the kit's fuselage length. Same for the diameters. Preferably you do that with a few photos to average your measurements.

 

Rob

If nobody has the actual dimensions this is what I'll have to do.   Hence the Mk 1 Eyeball method.

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I aligned a fairly good side view photo of the airplane with the accurate drawings I prepared for my 1/72 scale B-47 decal project. I estimate the pod diameter to be 36" and the length to be  285.5 inches.

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Awesome!  Thanks so much Kursad.   And this side view pic is perfect for what I need to scratch build one.  

don

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What a great subject for a build.   Please post a few pictures of your progress.  

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So breaking out the calculator and conversion app and based on Kursad's measurements, I have 6.35 mm diameter by 32.72 mm length for a 1/144 pod. 

 

 

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Those flights must have sucked for the poor EWO's stuck in that aft compartment.   Must have been hot as hell in there surrounded by all those electronics.    Brave men who flew those missions.   Just curious, has anyone ever found pictures of the interior of the EWO's compartment?

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10 hours ago, 11bee said:

Those flights must have sucked for the poor EWO's stuck in that aft compartment.   Must have been hot as hell in there surrounded by all those electronics.    Brave men who flew those missions.   Just curious, has anyone ever found pictures of the interior of the EWO's compartment?

Keep in mind that back when they flew these things they were highly classified and taking pics of the inside would probably land you a vacation trip to Kansas (Leavenworth). 

I have the book, We See All, and there is a cartoon showing the Crows all tucked into their beds with a television set in front of each.  Later in the book they do show a diagram of what each of the EW positions looks like equipment wise.   Pretty dang cramped.   192987.jpg

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On 8/2/2020 at 2:09 PM, 11bee said:

Those flights must have sucked for the poor EWO's stuck in that aft compartment.   Must have been hot as hell in there surrounded by all those electronics.    Brave men who flew those missions.   Just curious, has anyone ever found pictures of the interior of the EWO's compartment?

 

I just found them a few days ago! The San Diego Air and Space Museum has uploaded thousand of films from their archive to YouTube. I'm trying to filter the ones dealing with Ryan Firebees, for my AQM-34 website:

 

https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/aqm34/videos.htm

 

Last week I found four that (most likely) document the use of Firebee Models 147D and E, that worked with an RB-47H to collect SA-2 fuze signals over Vietnam. Two have short footage of what I believe are the EWO stations in the bomb bay. In one you can see some stenciling on the walls, that show we're probably in the bomb bay:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FanUMWALTY           from 3:35 to 5:00

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sz1ifAdQOw            from 0:00 to 1:00

 

Here are two more, but they don't show the RB-47H interior.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYnzk8XGVw

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG-QrGr_pI8

 

Rob

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I have been sitting on the old 1:72 Flightpath RB-47H update set for the Hasegawa B-47 for years and would be interested in knowing the dimensions of the pod in 1:72 myself as the Silverking has been on my back burner for a long time.  

 

Mark

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On ‎8‎/‎3‎/‎2020 at 4:36 PM, Rob de Bie said:

 

Last week I found four that (most likely) document the use of Firebee Models 147D and E, that worked with an RB-47H to collect SA-2 fuze signals over Vietnam. Two have short footage of what I believe are the EWO stations in the bomb bay. In one you can see some stenciling on the walls, that show we're probably in the bomb bay:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FanUMWALTY           from 3:35 to 5:00

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sz1ifAdQOw            from 0:00 to 1:00

 

Well I'll be a suck egg mule!   Looked at those clips and they certainly do correspond to the diagrams in the back of "We See All".  And that is definitely one cramped work space.   Makes me claustrophobic just to look at it.

Excellent find Rob.

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On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2020 at 4:59 PM, Drifterdon said:

So breaking out the calculator and conversion app and based on Kursad's measurements, I have 6.35 mm diameter by 32.72 mm length for a 1/144 pod. 

 

 

Went back over my figures because this looked small and somehow I totally jacked this up.   Using Kursads numbers I came up with 50.35mm in length with the same diameter of 6.35mm.   Just to make sure I didn't screw up again, I sized the pic Kursad provided as well the one Jari posted with RB-47H kit I'm working on and using a ruler on the monitor, came up with 55mm in length by 8 mm in diameter.  :doh:

 

Mark, Take you pick on which numbers and double that for a 1/72 pod.  Kursad is usually pretty spot on with his.

 

Don

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