boom175 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ben Brown said: Must. Resist. Must... not... buy... more... Phantoms.... 😄 Ben (saving up for multiple slatted Z-M F-4s) Resistance is futile...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 hours ago, GeneK said: Three days to US release of the F-4E (theoretically). Surprisingly no pre-order at Sprue Brothers. Anyone from Pensacola area want to split the Volks US Shipping cost? I'll deliver. Gene K Pre-Order now available https://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/zkmk29829.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Got it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff M Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Got it! Me Too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Thanks, Rich Ben said: [quote] Must. Resist. Must... not... buy... more... Phantoms.... 😄 [/quote] Look into my eyes ... you are getting sleepy .... repeat after me, " Must ... buy ... more ... Phantoms". Gene K Edited September 22, 2020 by GeneK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I just ordered up a sheet of Werner's Wings: Capt. Steve Richie and friends. I'm assuming the F-4E he and Chuck DeBellevue flew were/was early F-4E's. Can anyone confirm that? The sheets are for Monogram/Promodeler (says late slat for wings). If not, I'll save them for a later release from ZM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
juanchopancho Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Got my 2x pre-orders from SB. The '72 MiG killers all early F-4E or a mix? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, juanchopancho said: Got my 2x pre-orders from SB. The '72 MiG killers all early F-4E or a mix? Most F-4Es that served in SEA were early “hard wing” aircraft. A few slat equipped birds made it to theatre late in the war (1973-74) after the last F-4E “kill.” However, many F-4Es that fought, including MiG killers, had the newer Midas 4 gun blast diffuser, the latter apparently not included in this first boxing by ZM. Rich Edited September 23, 2020 by RichB63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, RichB63 said: Most F-4Es that served in SEA were early “hard wing” aircraft. A few slat equipped birds made it to theatre late in the war (1973-74) after the last F-4E “kill.” However, many F-4Es that fought, including MiG killers, had the newer Midas 4 gun blast diffuser, the latter apparently not included in this first boxing by ZM. Rich There’s a report on HS from someone who has the kit that both gun muzzles are in the box. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/take-a-look-at-the-zoukei-mura-f-4e-rear-fuselage-t518389.html#p2749614 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, GeneK said: Thanks, Rich Ben said: [quote] Must. Resist. Must... not... buy... more... Phantoms.... 😄 [/quote] Look into my eyes ... you are getting sleepy .... repeat after me, " Must ... buy ... more ... Phantoms". Gene K 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Yea both muzzles are in the kit. Parts M33/34 are the late parts. Single piece for the early muzzle split for the late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 6:33 PM, Dave Williams said: There’s a report on HS from someone who has the kit that both gun muzzles are in the box. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/take-a-look-at-the-zoukei-mura-f-4e-rear-fuselage-t518389.html#p2749614 10 hours ago, dehowie said: Yea both muzzles are in the kit. Parts M33/34 are the late parts. Single piece for the early muzzle split for the late. Good news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I fought the urge for long as possible....and preordered mine from Sprue Brothets tonight 😂🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️👌🏻 Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, Falconxlvi said: I fought the urge for long as possible....and preordered mine from Sprue Brothets tonight 😂🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️👌🏻 Steve Hey, Steve, how do you understand the SprueBrothers status on the F-4E, which says it's for pre-order only, but also says 'In Stock'. Which is it, do you know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Curt B said: Hey, Steve, how do you understand the SprueBrothers status on the F-4E, which says it's for pre-order only, but also says 'In Stock'. Which is it, do you know? They are supposed to arrive tomorrow based on the note Sprue Brothers posted on the “what’s new” page- so, technically a preorder for a few more hours ☺️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Falconxlvi said: They are supposed to arrive tomorrow based on the note Sprue Brothers posted on the “what’s new” page- so, technically a preorder for a few more hours ☺️ Ah, cool, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curt B said: Ah, cool, thanks. No worries 👍🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Curt B said: Hey, Steve, how do you understand the SprueBrothers status on the F-4E, which says it's for pre-order only, but also says 'In Stock'. Which is it, do you know? I suspect that the “in stock” is there just for their shopping cart system to process an order because it won’t allow anyone to order something that isn’t in stock. That’s why there is a large explanation on the item page that it is a pre-order only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
juanchopancho Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the info Rich. I imagine most of the Israeli F-4Es used in 1973 Yom Kippur were the early F-4Es? So this kit should work? Any parts in this kit for TISEO sensor? Eh nvm Jeffrey already mentioned on 2nd page no for TISEO parts. Edited September 25, 2020 by juanchopancho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave Williams said: I suspect that the “in stock” is there just for their shopping cart system to process an order because it won’t allow anyone to order something that isn’t in stock. That’s why there is a large explanation on the item page that it is a pre-order only. I'm hoping to see my order by the end of next week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hey All, Not being a particularly knowledgeable F-4 guy, what are the differences between an early and late production F-4E? I surmise that the late production F-4E is on the way from ZM, yes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Curt B said: Hey All, Not being a particularly knowledgeable F-4 guy, what are the differences between an early and late production F-4E? I surmise that the late production F-4E is on the way from ZM, yes? Curt there is a ton of info in this ARC thread alone. Read through it and if you can't find it here, there are others. Plenty of Phantom Pholloers here that might also give a hand with some links too. I know I'm not helping you here much, but this aircraft has such a fan following that you'll probably find more info out there (easy too) than any other US Jet Fighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 So did Steve Ritchies F-4E have the early or Midas gun muzzle? There had been debate about that in the past.Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Curt there is a ton of info in this ARC thread alone. Read through it and if you can't find it here, there are others. Plenty of Phantom Pholloers here that might also give a hand with some links too. I know I'm not helping you here much, but this aircraft has such a fan following that you'll probably find more info out there (easy too) than any other US Jet Fighter. Thanks, Matt. I guess I was just being lazy. I'll certainly do my own research. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Curt B said: Hey All, Not being a particularly knowledgeable F-4 guy, what are the differences between an early and late production F-4E? I surmise that the late production F-4E is on the way from ZM, yes? It isn’t so much “production” as it is configuration. While changes were made on the production line, in many case the changes were also the retrofitted to earlier F-4s that were built without the features. When modelers talk about “early” F-4s, they usually mean ones with the short gun muzzle and hard wings. “Late” F-4 are usually thought of as those with the longer Midas 4 gun muzzle and slatted wings. Mostly it’s the wing change as the differentiator as the newer gun muzzles started coming out before the slatted wings appeared in production. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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