F4DPhantomII Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 what is a good choice for burnt metal, titanium, jet exhaust, aluminum non buffing and various other metal finishes for jets. I know about Alclad are there others? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 AK metallics... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I prefer Gunze Super Metalisers and AK Xtreme Metals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 MRP has a nice metals range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Thanks for asking. This was the exact question I was wondering about as well as I'm on my last bottle of MM Burnt Metal. Here's a second question. Which of the above mentioned paints can also be brush painted? I loved MM Metalizers because you could brush small parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I am afraid none of those paints are good for brush. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Beary Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Darren Roberts said: Thanks for asking. This was the exact question I was wondering about as well as I'm on my last bottle of MM Burnt Metal. Here's a second question. Which of the above mentioned paints can also be brush painted? I loved MM Metalizers because you could brush small parts. Have you ever tried craft type paint? I used Apple Barrel gold leaf and platinum silver to great effect on some brake disks on a model car. They brushed very well, dried quickly, water based and much cheaper than model paints. Michael's, Hobby Lobby etc.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Bob Beary said: Have you ever tried craft type paint? I used Apple Barrel gold leaf and platinum silver to great effect on some brake disks on a model car. They brushed very well, dried quickly, water based and much cheaper than model paints. Michael's, Hobby Lobby etc.. I might have to give that a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Vallejo Metal Color range is rather nice, the acrylic ones that are water based transport not alcohol. But they do do an alcohol based verion which I havent tried. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nachjager Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Darren Roberts said: Thanks for asking. This was the exact question I was wondering about as well as I'm on my last bottle of MM Burnt Metal. Here's a second question. Which of the above mentioned paints can also be brush painted? I loved MM Metalizers because you could brush small parts. Have a look here, you can do it with Mr Metallics : Natural Metal Finishes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I brush painted the gun barrels of an Imperial knight with Vallejo Metal Color paint and it ended up looking nice but it is a small area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Bring back Model Master paint!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seawinder Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Some of the wargame figure guys in my club swear by Citadel metallics, and I must say they look great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, B.Sin said: Bring back Model Master paint!!! I agree my go to paints and metal finishes for all these years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glynn Jacobs Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, B.Sin said: Bring back Model Master paint!!! YES, SOMEBODY please! The entire line! WARDOG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Would be nice if True North would make a metallic line like Testor's. They seem to be the heir to the Model Master line. P.S. I just checked True North's site and they are now listing a "Series 5 Metal Effects" range. There's no other info about the range so don't know what they'll be like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 15 hours ago, B.Sin said: Bring back Model Master paint!!! Why? The current acrylic lacquers are far superior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Acrylic lacquers far superior? Smaller bottles higher prices how is that superior? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 A much easier and better paint to airbrush with that has far finer pigments and just lays down easier. Its not that much more that Model Master. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrew.deboer Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 How do you make a small fortune in the enamel model paint business? Start with a large fortune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnEB Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 hours ago, andrew.deboer said: How do you make a small fortune in the enamel model paint business? Start with a large fortune. With what they charge per ounce, you'd think that someone is making money! What is it $5 an ounce? The Chanel I buy my wife costs more, but that's about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrew.deboer Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Rather than thinking about the markup on a retailer is getting on this liquid, I tend to look at the variety of paints available on the market and what types they are. Enamels are not particularly popular in most of the world. Tamiya makes a line of enamels and I've never seen them retailed, but my local hobby shop does have the new lacquer paints coming. I can't mix enamel with another type of paint, but many of the other lines are compatible. Also, the other polymeric paints cure more quickly while enamel is still outgassing three days later. It's possible that someone is making money, but it's probably insignificant. I don't know what the economics experts would call it when you don't move enough units to justify continuing to make something regardless of the profit you're making on each unit. I'm sure Rust-Oleum doesn't employ any economists or accountants. It must be going over my head... Edited August 22, 2020 by andrew.deboer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I think its more of they don't make enough money on the line. I agree with you JohnEB, they have to be making money on the paints, they just don't sell the volume needed to fill the coffers of the CEOs and stock holders running a large corporation these days. Comes down to greed in my opinion. They aren't getting rich quick off it so they drop the line to streamline operations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbryan911 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 10:28 AM, Darren Roberts said: Thanks for asking. This was the exact question I was wondering about as well as I'm on my last bottle of MM Burnt Metal. Here's a second question. Which of the above mentioned paints can also be brush painted? I loved MM Metalizers because you could brush small parts. Citadel Acrylics by Game Workshop have a great line of brush-able metallic colors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, jbryan911 said: Citadel Acrylics by Game Workshop have a great line of brush-able metallic colors. Awesome! Thanks for the lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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