KursadA Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 CD48198 will be a new "The Early Years" sheet, covering prototype and early service A-10 Warthogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Ooorah! What's the base kit, Kursad? Tamiya, ESCI, Revell, or Monogram? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan buysse Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 11:23 PM, KursadA said: CD48198 will be a new "The Early Years" sheet, covering prototype and early service A-10 Warthogs. Cheers, Stefan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 5:49 AM, Dutch said: Ooorah! What's the base kit, Kursad? Tamiya, ESCI, Revell, or Monogram? I am pretty sure the Tamiya one is more prototype than production as you listed. Isn't the Monogram a production model? Okay maybe still early as it does not have the lumps and bumps of the current version I believe. I built the first release of the Tamiya kit and had to add some bump on the nose. I liked the kit. Also I think most of the marking will fit any of these except maybe the sharkmouth of 23 TFW or the Warthog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) On 10/29/2020 at 9:48 AM, skyhawk174 said: I am pretty sure the Tamiya one is more prototype than production as you listed. Isn't the Monogram a production model? Okay maybe still early as it does not have the lumps and bumps of the current version I believe. I built the first release of the Tamiya kit and had to add some bump on the nose. I liked the kit. Also I think most of the marking will fit any of these except maybe the sharkmouth of 23 TFW or the Warthog. Thanks! I was leaning towards the Tamiya kit for an early A-10 (20mm M61 nose cannon). I built the Revell #4516 SOOTB circa 1984 in Euro One colors for a Air Force roommate in college. In fact, I think it was one of the first kits on which I used my new Badger airbrush. K/r, Dutch Edited November 3, 2020 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 9:22 AM, Dutch said: Thanks! I was leaning towards the Tamiya kit for an early A-10 (20mm M61 nose cannon). I built the Revell one SOOTB circa 1984 in Euro One colors for a Air Force roommate in college. K/r, Dutch Wow you the man Dutch. I had the Revell kit, I think it was in the JAWS scheme on the box. Never did finish it. Something about it bugged me. Maybe it was the plastic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I see that this sheet is being released in April. Will it be released in 1/72 at some point in the future? The Matchbox kit is a good representation of the first two prototypes (71-1369 and -1370). The tailfins need to be reshaped and an air data boom needs to be added too but other than that, externally, it looks good to go. The cockpit might be a different story, however 😬. I'm sure there are other kits in this scale that will allow early-production A-10s to be built too. 👍 LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircal62 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Saw this sheet announced and thrilled. Way back when the A-10 was the new toy (as was the F-16 and F-15) I was able to drive up to Nellis AFB to photograph the A-10 JAWS aircraft. They had three of the aircraft on the ramp for me and work stands so that I could climb up on the aircraft and photograph the top etc. The photos I then sent to Dana Bell who was working on an IPMS article. I should have kept a dup set of the slides! Then when I got the IPMS article from Dana I did the artwork for the early A-10 decal for Microscale. Which until now I think was the only decal to depict the JAWS and several of the early development aircraft with nose art. Can't wait for this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The Airfix 1/72 A-10 kit was released in JAWS markings in the early 80's too. As you say, a new sheet featuring JAWS markings will be good. It ain't going to be easy to paint, though! LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 Wait - the early aircraft had nose art? This I have got to see - I will check out the Microscale sheet. Does anyone have a link to the IPMS article? I will definitely scale it down to 1/72 as soon as possible, it just will not happen in April because of the cost of the multi-sheet B-52 set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) @KursadA The Microscale sheet 72-313 featured the early prototype YA-10s and OT&E A-10A aircraft with the various different grey "mask" schemes applied, as well as the dark & light JAWS aircraft and early deployment wings (DM, MB, & WR). I remember that two of the AFSC early test schemes featured noseart with a turkey holding a GAU-8 (73-1665) and a "Charlie the Tuna" holding a GAU-8 (73-1666); there were others, a bulldog I think. The oldish Detail & Scale Color & Markings series on the A-10, C&M Vol.24 has lots of photos of the early test schemes. Two of the AFSC aircraft also featured Int'l orange flight control surfaces on the tail and wingtips. Edited February 17 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircal62 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Dutch is showing the 72nd scale sheet, the 48th scale sheet was 48-69. I do have Dana's Pro-Fly, let me see what I can do about digging it out. Might have some slides of the early test and evaluation birds too, but not sure about that anymore. These sheets are so long gone and these schemes have been largely forgotten. That's why I am so excited about you doing the early birds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircal62 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Like many test aircraft crews put nose art on them. The Prototype F-35 had several nose arts, one of them being a squid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Wayne, I was primarily showing the early schemes and nose art. You are correct, they are also available on Microscale 48-69. BTW, these decals are now ~40 years old and in desparate need of replacement. Besides, at CDN$35 from Ultracast a little steep. Edited February 17 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircal62 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Dutch fully agree! I was thinking about this today because of these post, and realized that the Micro Scale 48th scale decal was issued in 1978 or 79 making it 45 years old. It was produced using by todays standard pre-historic artwork and printing. But more to the point, most modeler today in their 40's and 50's have no idea about the color scheme experimentation or trails the A-10 went through, and these markings and the upcoming Caracal Decal should prove mind boggling. Hard to believe the A-10 is fifty. BTW, the 72nd sheet your showed was news to me, it was produced off the artwork of the 48th scale sheet, and was done after I had departed Microscale. The Dana Bell Pri Fly I am copying and will send a copy to Kursad. If you want Dutch, I'll send a copy your way as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Harder to believe the Eagle is 51 years old now. And that the Tomcats are all museum pieces - first flew in 1970! Getting old sucks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 minutes ago, Paul Boyer said: Harder to believe the Eagle is 51 years old now. And that the Tomcats are all museum pieces - first flew in 1970! Getting old sucks! Going by first flights: F-35 is already 16+ years old. F-22 is 25+ years old. B-2 is 33+ years old. F-16 is 46+ years old. And I'm older than the F-106...... ☹️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 8 hours ago, Paul Boyer said: Harder to believe the Eagle is 51 years old now. And that the Tomcats are all museum pieces - first flew in 1970! Getting old sucks! No Paul, getting old doesn't suck, but it ain't for sissies! Edited February 17 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 10 hours ago, habu2 said: And I'm older than the F-106...... ☹️ @habu2 As my former B-52G pilot co-worker used to say, "We (him & the BUFF) have both grown old, gray and overweight together." I told him that he wasn't overweight, just under powered! 😆 Edited February 17 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Here is a link to truck load of photos of 71-1369, including cockpit photos, as well as some photos of 31665 fitted with an air data boom. I'd guess these are all Fairchild company pics. https://cdm16694.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16694coll109/search/searchterm/Republic YA-10/page/1 I hope this is of interest. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Kursad, if it's noseart you are looking for, try this link. Too many to pick a favorite! Some with some pretty impressive mission / kill markings as well. On second thought, I do have a favorite: A-10A 78-0599 "Bird of Prey" flown by Captain Jeff "Grass" Gingras, 355th TFS, 354th TFW "Falcons", tail code "MB" from Myrtle Beach AFB, SC at King Fahd Airport, Saudi Arabia circa 1990-91. Grass and I worked together during 2010-2011. He told me a story of his early years in Myrtle Beach. At a bar once, an attractive young female professional (lawyer or accountant, I forget) asked him what his occupation was, he cooly responded, "I'm a heavy equipment operator. I move a lot of dirt!" (I love those lines!) She immediately turned around and ignored him to her great loss. I'd love to model his aircraft for him. I have the Hasegawa 1/72 kit waiting. Edited February 18 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike J. Idacavage Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hopefully, the Edwards AFB "whitewashed" early A-10 will make the list! I have been wanting to build one of these as the combo of the unusual paint job and the hi vis color really catches my eye. Have fun modeling! Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Kursad, if it's noseart you are looking for, try this link. Too many to pick a favorite! Some with some pretty impressive mission / kill markings as well. On second thought, I do have a favorite: A-10A 78-0599 "Bird of Prey" flown by Captain Jeff "Grass" Gingras, 355th TFS, 354th TFW "Falcons", tail code "MB" from Myrtle Beach AFB, SC at King Fahd Airport, Saudi Arabia circa 1990-91. Grass and I worked together during 2010-2011. He told me a story of his early years in Myrtle Beach. At a bar once, an attractive young female professional (lawyer or accountant, I forget) asked him what his occupation was, he cooly responded, "I'm a heavy equipment operator. I move a lot of dirt!" She immediately turned around an ignored him to her great loss. I'd love to model his aircraft for him. I have the Hasegawa 1/72 kit waiting. Hi Dutch, I was referring to prototypes snd very early A-10s during the fiirst years of their service. I already did a very colorful Cold War A-10 sheet (CD48192 and CD72112) with several examples of nose art , which happen to include markings for “Bird of Prey”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Doh! How did I miss that! Right! I will put it on order immediately. Edited February 17 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Maybe this will help, cut from an old Koku-Fan. Air Combat magazine did a couple articles on early A-10 camo by none other than Dana Bell, in 1972. I can send some scans. Been looking forward to something like this for years so I can put the Micro Scale sheet to pasture. Edited February 17 by Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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