zark Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Question to the Tomcat experts...Was it ever used in action as a FAC, loaded with unguided rockets such as Zunis? Years ago back in 1998 FSM had posted an article regarding an F-14 Fast FAC (VF-103), loaded with Lgbs and Zuni rockets on the shoulder pylon...Checking my books/magazines as well as the net and posting the same question on FB, I didnt find any relative information or photos to confirm that...anyone???...is anything out there???☺️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Absolutely, she did it all, and then some. Tony Holmes two books, " US Navy F-14 Tomcat Units of Operation Iraqi Freedom " and " Units of Operation Enduring Freedom " talks about those missions. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 She may have done it all, but Zuni's were not part of the operational loads used. Testing only I pressume. I have never seen an operational F-14 of any letter carrying this load, but would love to see it if it exist. Testing however - not surprised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Niels said: She may have done it all, but Zuni's were not part of the operational loads used. Testing only I pressume. I have never seen an operational F-14 of any letter carrying this load, but would love to see it if it exist. Testing however - not surprised. Yes correct. I should have been more specific with my answer, I was referring to the FAC role. I agree about the Zuni's however, would like to know if they were ever used in anger as well. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zark Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Thanks for your input guys...so I suppose we all come to the same conclusion...zunis never used operationaly !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Nope, never used operationally Here is a link with more info: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-zuni.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Ahh, now I see why you were asking for info about the FSM article. 😀 When I did that article, many moons ago, FAC with Zuni pods was being talked about as a future mission for the Tomcat. Zuni's were tested, but never put on operationally. But at the time, that wasn't known. So, I used some artistic license for the article, since the LANTIRN and FAC were new to the Tomcat. Though the article was published in 1998, it was actually written soon after VF-103 changed from the Sluggers to the Jolly Rogers in 1996, so no hard decisions had been made yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zark Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Thanks for the reply Darren, everything is cleared up now!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 3:25 AM, zark said: Question to the Tomcat experts...Was it ever used in action as a FAC, loaded with unguided rockets such as Zunis? ☺️ Since the introduction of ground-based and airborne laser illuminators (LANTIRN, LITENING, etc), the need for visually marking a target with smoke has greatly diminished. Can you still mark a target with smoke? Yes, but you can only carry a limited number of rockets. Can you mark a target with a laser and the target NOT know they are being marked? Yes, and the laser isn't limited to the number of rockets on-board. CAVEAT - The new laser guided rockets can be used to mark AND kill targets, but I think the F-14 went out of service before those things went into common use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Zuni’s were flown 1 time for a test/Photoex. They were never considered for carry on the carrier or for operational use. The reason being is the hot trigger logic function would be for Aim-9 and Zuni at the same time. There was an article long ago about how AIRLANT did the 1 flight, and pretty sure it was Snort that flew it. -Brian Edited December 11, 2020 by Brian P: Fightertown Decals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) ... Edited December 12, 2020 by GW8345 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just some food for thought, but here's a What-If Tomcat with dedicated Air to Ground loading in a really old article: http://hsfeatures.com/f14amarinesad_1.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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