ulvdemon Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Random question and maybe I've missed something, but does the F-15C have an additional pylon on the wing to hold a EMC pod? Oddly enough, I was looking at a Revell 1/48 F-15C build and it was there in the build, yet the instructions it has it in place of the missiles on a pylon. Am I missing something or is this just a case of an old mold using outdated information. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) It's been a long time since I've been around a F-15 or even built one. However I have the same kit of Lt.Col. Wallace's aircraft. He flew it as the Commander of the William Tell Shogun team when they deployed to Florida for the competition. They flew ono-stop from Kadena to Florida and made it within 10 minutes of their estimated time. I worked inteh scheduling section for the fighter wing and would see the team almost every day. I have included a shot of the team the day they left for the states, one where they got back, and a couple when they were in flight . I don't see any extra pylon under their wings. They carrieed three tanks for the trip but if they had ECM pods with them they must have been carried in the new KC-10s they were provided. I think that the extra pylon was added for the Isreali A.F. and maybe J.A.S.D.F. when their ships arrived. [URL=https://app.photobucket.com/u/ikar_photos/a/15689291-1657-448f-9ca7-ab20a7c3e479/p/1d344d14-eedb-4040-8468-7ca71354e9f3][IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/ikar_photos/.highres/scan0056.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://app.photobucket.com/u/ikar_photos/a/15689291-1657-448f-9ca7-ab20a7c3e479/p/48bea0b3-a1dc-4a02-ad48-c844a078640d][IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/ikar_photos/.highres/scan0053.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://app.photobucket.com/u/ikar_photos/a/15689291-1657-448f-9ca7-ab20a7c3e479/p/83653345-8447-414f-b50a-318f7c5051c5][IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/ikar_photos/.highres/scan0049.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://app.photobucket.com/u/ikar_photos/a/15689291-1657-448f-9ca7-ab20a7c3e479/p/48be8c53-733e-4025-842f-4c153b1ac533][IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/ikar_photos/.highres/scan0011.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Edited December 16, 2020 by ikar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Other than seeing them in the old Revell kit, I’ve never seen an operational F-15C with the extra outboard pylon, empty or carrying anything. I believe the capability may be there, but they’ve never been actually used so far. They were photographed at least once for a proposed SEAD version. http://bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/files/BEMIL085/upload/2008/08/F-15 Harm.jpg I think there has been talk of installing the pylons for future upgraded versions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don't believe those pylons were ever active on legacy Eagles due to possible wing cracking. Those pylons are now operational on the F-15SA, QA and EX. -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I seem to recall vibrations or flutter problems during early testing resulted in the outer pylons being deleted, until now: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I thought the F-15A used them for additional ECM pods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsculton Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The outer wing pylons are not used on earlier F-15s. There were fluttering issues caused by then during testing. You will however see them on F-15SA and newer aircraft because the use a new fly by wire system not used on earlier F-15s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Of note, the outer pylons on the F-15SA/QA/EX are differently shaped that the ones tested on early F-15s. The old style had a vertical trailing edge on the pylon, while the new style slopes back at a relatively shallow angle. Cheers, Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconxlvi Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) It had a lot to do with the old analog flight control tapes and departure susceptibility at high angles of attack with stuff hanging out there. F-15SA/QA/EX has a totally new digital fly-by-wire flight control system that greatly alleviates this danger. So bring on stations 1/9! Steve Edited January 4, 2021 by Falconxlvi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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