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Working on my 1/48 Hobby Craft Tutor and looking for some expertise out there, I'm doing the Military Trainer version and thinking about the  paint. I am looking at pictures on the net and in my references and I see ones that look bare metal and others that look like a silver paint. Were bare metal ones early schemes and painted ones later schemes? Thanks Ray

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For the most part, yes, except on Tuesdays and when its dark out.

 

Back in the day when they took the paint off the Golden Centennairs they painted the airframes white to stop corrosion. Hence Snowbirds. Time goes on different airframes go in and out of 431 squadron. When the white paint came off they painted them silver. I "thinK" but can not confirm that later in life "most" of the Tutors were indeed painted.

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Thanks phantom, that squares with what I am seeing. In my Canadair book you can see new ones definitley in bare metal then later on a row of them that looks to be silver paint. There is also an interesting photo of an all white Tutor that was involved in a race from London Ontario to Victoria in the book. 

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Well not too sure about the early ones but the later ones were definitely painted in some sort of silver lacquer. I have been up close and personal with several Tutors at many air shows and my last visit was at CFB Cold Lake in 2016. I too have a Hobbycraft Tutor I would like to build but the kit sure makes you hesitate. I see all the work involved to make it a nice replica.

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For sure the Hobby Craft kit needs work, I'm lucky in that I picked up an Uncle Bills interior in Calgary when they were still available so that helps out a lot. The surface of the plastic is also a little textured, I'm dealing with this by using Stynelrez primer "love this stuff" and sanding it down which is working. I have another kit in the stash and depending on how I feel after this one it may end up on the trading block.

    Thanks for the insight dylan, i'll be looking at my decals and some more photos and make the decision on which way to go whether bare metal or paint as both would be correct. Leaning more towards older and bare metal right now.

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I can remember seeing silver painted ones at the London International Airshow back in the day a few times.

 

I did see one white one at one of the couple Sarnia Airshows that Walsh put on (it might have been the same year as the Sea Fury crash, but I can't be sure).

 

I've never seen a bare metal one, but I must be a wee babe, I guess, and they were before my time. 🙂

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ex-Snowbirds when rotated back to the school in Moose Jaw, would be painted Aluminum.  All other jets on the line were bare metal.    Starting in the mid-80s when the FIP scheme was introduced then one by one they started to receive the  Aluminum Lacquer paint job(as Gary mentioned).   But the majority of the fleet stayed in bare metal til retirement.

 

So it all depends on what serial number you are doing and the time frame.

 

I have a bit of experience on the CT-114, so don't be shy in asking any and all questions in a PM or here on the forum

 

Cheers, Tony

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8 hours ago, Snowbird3a said:

ex-Snowbirds when rotated back to the school in Moose Jaw, would be painted Aluminum.  All other jets on the line were bare metal.    Starting in the mid-80s when the FIP scheme was introduced then one by one they started to receive the  Aluminum Lacquer paint job(as Gary mentioned).   But the majority of the fleet stayed in bare metal til retirement.

 

So it all depends on what serial number you are doing and the time frame.

 

I have a bit of experience on the CT-114, so don't be shy in asking any and all questions in a PM or here on the forum

 

Cheers, Tony


I knew you would add your wealth of experience.

 

What I’d do is find an image of the Tutor in the era I am building and build to that particular airframe/image/serial. It is very easy to tell natural metal from painted.

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Hi Tony

      Thanks for replying to this and giving the  most definitive answer, always good to get the intel straight from the guys who flew and worked on these. Great community on here for getting info on almost anything. I just finished up a twin seater CF-18 that my girlfriend got a ride in back in cold lake  in the 90s, good thing she had pics because all she could tell me was that it was fast, grey and she didn't puke. Cheers Ray

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FWIW, I was stationed at Reese AFB IN Lubbock, TX. From May 78 to June 81. For some reason the Tutor guys liked stopping there. They were shiny bare metal during that period. Frequently saw Canadian ‘101s as well come to think about it. Must have been the loads of cute girls at Texas Tech!

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On 1/3/2021 at 1:28 AM, BillS said:

FWIW, I was stationed at Reese AFB IN Lubbock, TX. From May 78 to June 81. For some reason the Tutor guys liked stopping there. They were shiny bare metal during that period. Frequently saw Canadian ‘101s as well come to think about it. Must have been the loads of cute girls at Texas Tech!

Certainly the flying weather was better in Lubbock than back in Canada depending on the time of year. 😉

 

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47 minutes ago, Jay Chladek said:

Certainly the flying weather was better in Lubbock than back in Canada depending on the time of year. 😉

 

Moose Jaw's flying weather has  gotta be the best in the country.   More hours of sunshine per year on the prairies than the rest of Canada, resulting in not many 'washout' days.   Even in the bitter cold of winter, it's usually clear as a bell.

 

Cheers, Tony

 

 

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7 hours ago, Snowbird3a said:

Moose Jaw's flying weather has  gotta be the best in the country.   More hours of sunshine per year on the prairies than the rest of Canada, resulting in not many 'washout' days.   Even in the bitter cold of winter, it's usually clear as a bell.

 

Cheers, Tony

 

 

And you can watch your dog run away for three days.

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On 12/30/2020 at 10:54 AM, RCNFAN said:

I have another kit in the stash and depending on how I feel after this one it may end up on the trading block.

If you decide to put the other kit on the trading block, I'd definitely take it off your hands.  I have been building custom Snowbird models for current and past team members, so I am always on the lookout for other kits.....just in case.

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Evening Gents,

At AETE (2013-2016) we had 5 ac, 1 in AETE markings (White,Black and Red) and the remainder was in silver lacquer finish. As per the others, as you can see the evolution of finish on this aircraft greatly depended in the life cycle of the aircraft, the intended end life of specific airframes and where they were located. As Scooby suggested, select a particular airframe number (a couple back up choices couldn't hurt) and/or the time frame you wanted and then lets see if this group of Tutor lovers can help you with specifics. 

 

AE2012-090-91.jpg

 

 

Cheers

 

AFM

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Hi Colin

       I'll let you know before I put any trade requests up on here. It is the Trainer version not the Snow Bird , I will also be including the nose wheel well and the airbrakes from the Uncle Bills set as I didn't use them. Cheers Ray

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Snowbird3a,

Thanks for the photos. Really sharp looking a/c. The leading edges appear to be polished natural metal, the upper and lower surfaces are not very visible and do you know if they are white with the same red panels as the other a/c pictured above, or silver paint, or . . . . . 

Now have to get a 1/48th Tutor kit, or a 1/32nd if any makes one, and see if decals are available. If not I'll have to sharpen up my painting skills.

Thanks,

Cheers :cheers:

Itch

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14 hours ago, Cajun21 said:

Snowbird3a,

Thanks for the photos. Really sharp looking a/c. The leading edges appear to be polished natural metal, the upper and lower surfaces are not very visible and do you know if they are white with the same red panels as the other a/c pictured above, or silver paint, or . . . . . 

Now have to get a 1/48th Tutor kit, or a 1/32nd if any makes one, and see if decals are available. If not I'll have to sharpen up my painting skills.

Thanks,

Cheers :cheers:

Itch

Just Google 'AETE CT-114 Tutor' and a few more images show up.   J-BOT did have decals but he has retired due to health reasons.

 

Tony

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On 2/5/2021 at 9:22 AM, Cajun21 said:

Snowbird3a,

Thanks for the photos. Really sharp looking a/c. The leading edges appear to be polished natural metal, the upper and lower surfaces are not very visible and do you know if they are white with the same red panels as the other a/c pictured above, or silver paint, or . . . . . 

Now have to get a 1/48th Tutor kit, or a 1/32nd if any makes one, and see if decals are available. If not I'll have to sharpen up my painting skills.

Thanks,

Cheers :cheers:

Itch

also good luck finding a kit. There are no 1/32nd kit and the old 1/48 Hobbycraft kit is going for north of $100, if  you can even find one. We desperately need a new one on the market (Come on Trumpeter!!!). the 1/72 can be found here and there sometimes for a decent price.

 

 Sean

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On 2/6/2021 at 10:20 AM, martin_sam_2000 said:

also good luck finding a kit. There are no 1/32nd kit and the old 1/48 Hobbycraft kit is going for north of $100, if  you can even find one. We desperately need a new one on the market (Come on Trumpeter!!!). the 1/72 can be found here and there sometimes for a decent price.

 

 Sean

God no on Trumpeter doing a Tutor in any scale.  Truth be told, I am currently gathering reference material and will be making a pitch to Kinetic.  If they can do something as eccentric as a Pucara, a Tutor shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.  So hopefully I am successful.  In the meantime, I am still gathering references. 

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38 minutes ago, Colin K said:

God no on Trumpeter doing a Tutor in any scale.  Truth be told, I am currently gathering reference material and will be making a pitch to Kinetic.  If they can do something as eccentric as a Pucara, a Tutor shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.  So hopefully I am successful.  In the meantime, I am still gathering references. 

Im in!!  If you need any ground floor support let me know. Im sure you have research covered, but im willing to help if needed!!!

 

sean

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