11bee Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) ICM will be releasing both early and late versions (a third release will have crew members included). First two are due in Q2. Given the quality of their recent models, these kits should be awesome. I would also hazard a guess that this would lead to a series of UH-1’s. If so, this would truly be good times for helo modelers and we won’t have to wonder if KH will ever get around to releasing their Hueys. Edited January 6, 2021 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Interesting. Where did you hear that? Any drawings or CAD images yet? I would prefer 1/35 though. Edited January 6, 2021 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, HeavyArty said: Interesting. Where did you hear that? Any drawings or CAD images yet? I would prefer 1/35 though. Over on LSP. Hannants has added these kits to their catalog. No pics or CAD’s yet. I’d prefer 35th as well but beggars can’t be choosers I suppose. Plus, I’m heavily into 32nd aircraft in general so for me it’s not a major issue. Hopefully we’ll see good support from the aftermarket folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 Looks like ICM also announced that they will be selling the US Army Vietnam Helo Crew figures separately. Supposed to be released sometime in Q2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Not a huge difference between 1/32 and 1/35. Kinda like 1/24-1/25. Either is fine with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 Hopefully the late G release has the "sugar scoop" exhaust deflector and the external 20mm cannon. That's the version I really want to build. Assume that if this sells well, we might see some later version Snakes as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'll pass as it's the wrong scale gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) What scale are you looking for? If you pass because it's 1/32 and not 1/35........🙄 Edited January 10, 2021 by midnightprowler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 To be fair, in this day and age, it should be 1/35. The fight over whether military helos should be 1/32 or 1/35 seems to be over, given the large number of military helicopters released in 1/35. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I just don't care. Either is fine. This is no different than car modelers arguing over 1/25-1/24. I like both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Dave Williams said: To be fair, in this day and age, it should be 1/35. The fight over whether military helos should be 1/32 or 1/35 seems to be over, given the large number of military helicopters released in 1/35. I’d prefer 35th but given that all the other models on my display shelf are 32nd, I can live with this. I do wonder how these companies come to the decision to release kits in non-standard scales (as we just saw with that new outfit releasing 35th scale -109’s and Stukas). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 9:18 AM, midnightprowler said: What scale are you looking for? If you pass because it's 1/32 and not 1/35........🙄 1/35th is what I'd be wanting. Not much interest in a 1/32 scale chopper at my house gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 1:21 PM, Dave Williams said: To be fair, in this day and age, it should be 1/35. The fight over whether military helos should be 1/32 or 1/35 seems to be over, given the large number of military helicopters released in 1/35. Dave; if for no other reason than figures to go along with it alone is enough reason to be thinking 1/35th. Chopper crews don't dress like fighter jocks off a carrier gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 7:02 PM, 11bee said: I’d prefer 35th but given that all the other models on my display shelf are 32nd, I can live with this. I do wonder how these companies come to the decision to release kits in non-standard scales (as we just saw with that new outfit releasing 35th scale -109’s and Stukas). actually that 1/35 scale 109 has it's merits just as it has it's down side. Armor folks have really gotten the diorama bug over the last few years, and adding a 1/35th scale airframe just kinda gives you new avenues to move in. Myself, I'd have prefered 1/32, but if it's as good as the Tristar Storch, then I'll be looking hard at it. That Storch is way better than the Hasegawa, and it in itself is a pretty good kit. I'd love a 1/35th Lysander gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I just don't see that much difference between the two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, midnightprowler said: I just don't see that much difference between the two. The difference is relatively small, sort of. 1/32 is 9.143% larger than 1/35. You can use the two scales together as long as constant-sized items such as weapons, canteens, ammo pouches, etc. are all the same scale. I have used 1/35 pilots, soldiers, and gear with 1/32 helicopters in the past. They look fine together. If you go the other way though, 1/32 figures with 1/35 helicopters or vehicles, it doesn't work as well since the figures are too big, almost 10% larger. A couple examples. 1/35 Dragon pilots and Bravo 6 MP with 1/32 Revell Cobra. 1/32 Video Aviation ground crewman with 1/35 Kitty Hawk HH-60G and same 1/35 MP. Some actual humans next to UH-60s for comparison. Now, with companies like Reedoak, you can get very finely detailed 1/32 helicopter pilots, crew, and ground crew to fill your 1/32 Cobras with. So it is not as much of an issue. The reason I prefer 1/35 helos though is to place them with 1/35 armor and ground troopers. It just gives you more options to have them in the same scale. Edited January 14, 2021 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnightprowler Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yeah. it's the same with cars in 1/25 or 1/24. And much depends on how accurate to scale the manufacturer made the kit. I realize there is a size difference, especially when using parts in between the scales, I'm just saying for me, I personally don't care which scale they make it in, I'm just happy to see a larger scale kit. More auto aftermarket is available in 1/25 than 1/24 as well, but I generally don't have funds for that anyway and largely build oob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 ICM has released their 2021 Catalog and inside is a very welcomed confirmation. They have announced what looks to be two, maybe three, new-tooled AH-1G Cobras in 1/32 scale. Hopefully these will be very nice. 32060 looks to be an early Cobra with the left hand tail rotor. 32061 should be a late model AH-1G with right hand tail rotor. The last one, 32062, could be either, but with pilot figures included. They have also announced the pilots as a separate set: 1/32 US Helicopter Pilots (Vietnam War) to go with them. The full catalog can be seen here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Whenever I see a 1/32 AH-1, my mind goes back to when i was a little kid and building the Revell US Army helicopter models. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 1/13/2021 at 5:50 PM, midnightprowler said: I just don't see that much difference between the two. Over .03" per foot of actual length between 1/32 and 1/35th scale. Suspect there's at least an inch difference. gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YF65_CH53E Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1/32 or 1/35th does it really matter? I think what matters is it’s a new tooled, new production helicopter model. It’s not another P-51 with different decals or another FW-190. I mean no disrespect to any fixed wing modelers, but as a helicopter Modeler I’m excited for any company willing to get us rotary wing subjects. As Gino very skillfully pointed out, 9.143% difference? Really? With my old eyes 1/32 or 1/35 I’ll build them either way. just my one cent opinion. Gy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 What Gy said. Hope they won’t limit the M35 cannon to just the kit with the flight crew (which I believe is last to be released). I’m really looking forward to the late version with the sugar scoop (and hopefully M35). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 ICM has released some pictures. Looks pretty decent, appears to offer a choice of underwing weapons, open canopies, etc. Just hoping they also provide the later twin minigun / 40 mm turret. Only a very few early Cobras had the single weapon turret shown below. If not, I'll have to wait for the "late" version I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I do understand the conversation between 1/32 and 1/35 scale difference. The difference becomes really noticeable once you start adding vehicles or figures to your helo dio otherwise both scales work but more i would go with 1/35 as far as i am concerned. Happy to see the Cobra is being released. Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 3:50 PM, 11bee said: ICM has released some pictures. Looks pretty decent, appears to offer a choice of underwing weapons, open canopies, etc. Just hoping they also provide the later twin minigun / 40 mm turret. Only a very few early Cobras had the single weapon turret shown below. If not, I'll have to wait for the "late" version I guess. they very first Cobra is ever saw in January 69 had the single gun up front. It was a 101st ship on an OP I was on with them. Apparently it was still in the learning curve for them as it didn't hover well when firing that cannon up front. Suspect that issue was fixed sooner than later. The paint job was the generic O.D. that most choppers were painted back then. The one thing I got from it was that it flew like a small airplane. Just didn't set still in the air very well. gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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