ElectroSoldier Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Does the Hasegawa V10 F-16CJ (Block 50) Fighting Falcon kit also build into one of the SP Vipers that worked with the F-4G? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Yes it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Does it have the Pave Penny pod attached to it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 The Hasegawa F-16C V10 kit? No, it is an HTS pod, used to guide the AGM-88 Harm missile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 45 minutes ago, ElectroSoldier said: Does it have the Pave Penny pod attached to it? The only F-16s to carry PAVE PENNY were early Israeli jets and the charcoal lizard CAS demonstrators. For HARM you want the HTS pod like Niels mentioned, it does look similar to the PAVE PENNY pod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 14 hours ago, ElectroSoldier said: Does the Hasegawa V10 F-16CJ (Block 50) Fighting Falcon kit also build into one of the SP Vipers that worked with the F-4G? IIRC the F-4G / F-16C "Hunter Killer" SEAD teams in your pic were Block 30 F-16s. You can also build a Block 30 from the Hasegawa V10 kit. Later, the integration of the HTS (HARM Targeting System) pod with the Block 50/52 jets gave the F-16 stand-alone SEAD capability, no F-4G hunter killer teams required. So, both Block 30 and Block 50 jets operated out of Spang (at different times) carrying HARM, Block 30s teamed with F-4G, then Block 50 with HTS pod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenshb Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Don't think any kit gives you a Pave Penny pod? Isracast make an Israeli F-16A update set that includes the "scab on" chaff and flare dispensers as well as the Pave Penny pod and intake pylon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 No. The reason is that beyond the USAF testing and Israeli use, noone else used this on the F-16. And in all fairness, it's not that often found on Israeli F-16's either from what I've seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) What kits makes a block 30 version? Edited June 3, 2021 by ElectroSoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 The same kit. Externally the block 30, 40 and 50 look the same. The block 40 however has a different HUD. Also the block 50 has internal wing strengtheners which can be seen as small "bulges" on the wing/fuselage joint. On block 30/40 these are external through strengthener plates added later in life. Tamiya has the internal strengtheners moulded in, they are easily sanded down. Tamiya also has kit showing the correct HUD of the block 40/42. (block 25/32/42/52 used PW engine, while the block 30/40/50/60 uses GE engine) Academy's F-16 has part that allows you to build a F-16A block 15 or C from blocks 25/32. Hasegawa's F-16 has parts that allow you to build an F-16C block 30/32/50/52 - its missing the correct HUD to make 40/42, but there is aftermarket for this. You also need the strengtheners depending on time frame, but nowadays all blocks except 50/52 has these. Tamiya is top of class, and has all the right parts for each block depending on boxing. You still need the external strengtheners but again these are aftermarket anyhow. Here you can read more on the various versions of the F-16: F-16 Versions Kit overview: f-16* 1:48 - Scale Modeling Search (scalemates.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Blocks 40/42/50/52 also have the heavyweight gear with wider main wheels and bulged MLG doors, which is a difference from the Block 30/32. Also, Blocks 40+ moved the landing lights from the MLG struts to inside of the front of the nose wheel door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: Blocks 40/42/50/52 also have the heavyweight gear with wider main wheels and bulged MLG doors, which is a difference from the Block 30/32. Also, Blocks 40+ moved the landing lights from the MLG struts to inside of the front of the nose wheel door. This is also done to MLU'ed F-16A/B's and block 25/30/32 F-16's as part of their upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I wasn’t aware that US F-16s were MLU’d. I thought that was only a European thing. Also didn’t know the MLU’d F-16s got the heavyweight gear, but I know they did get the the relocated landing lights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 The US had the CCIP programme, which essentially was the same as the MLU for the A/B fleet. From datatape 3 something the are 100% aligned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Acronym time…. IIRC CCIP was for USAF 40/42/50/52. USAF 30/32 got a similar upgrade via CUPID. Not sure if Blk 25s were included in CUPID. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 They were - 148FW 179FS flew CUPID updated block 25's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Did any USAF F-16 of any type ever use both LANTIRN pods? If so is there a kit for it? 72 and 48? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, ElectroSoldier said: Did any USAF F-16 of any type ever use both LANTIRN pods? If so is there a kit for it? 72 and 48? I think the old Hasegawa 1/48 F-16C Night Falcon kit included both LANTIRN pods. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/hasegawa-06108-f-16c-night-falcon--163724 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Yes, the block 40/42 carried both pods, but not during Dessert Storm - it was too new at the time. There is plenty available in both scales, Hasegawa Weapons set has them amongst others, the F-16C kit is another (boxing dependant) Search for AN/AAQ-14 and/or AN/AAQ-13 - you can see them in the Hasegawa Weapons kit D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wxltcol Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 The old Italeri 1/72 F-16C/D Night Falcon included the LANTIRN pods, I think. But, that was a long ago kit... Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 Did the Aviano F-16 jets have LANTIRN pods? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Yes. Try reading up on the F-16 via www.F-16.net, it will answer just about any question you have on the F-16 Viper and all the various versions of it. There you find tonns of reference pictures too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 Yeah no sorry I read up about the Block 40/42 version that gave LANTIRN capability and managed to trace some of the build numbers to Aviano but I wasnt sure if they actually had an used them there or if their jets were just capable of but never used both the nav and targetting pods because Ive managed to find so few photos of a jet carrying both pods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Is there a kit that can build into a USAF F-16C Block 40E ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) F-16C/N "Aggressor/Adversary", Tamiya 61106 (2009) (scalemates.com) Edited October 21, 2021 by Niels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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