Mr Matt Foley Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 11:32 AM, Niels said: They will replace legacy C/D models, firstly with the 173FW. And yes, they are multi-role hence have A2G capability. According to the USAF they will be used extensively for Homeland Air Defense. I would however wager that if needed they'll quickly move to theater and be what everyone expects...become missile trucks for F-35 and F-22 missions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff M Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Air Force magazine article. Link to the article Geoff M Edited April 11, 2021 by Geoff M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Geoff M said: Air Force magazine article. Link to the article Geoff M Whoa. Thanks for the link. I guess it makes sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da SWO Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: According to the USAF they will be used extensively for Homeland Air Defense. I would however wager that if needed they'll quickly move to theater and be what everyone expects...become missile trucks for F-35 and F-22 missions. HA! Guard F-15 units have pulled "their" share of rotations. Give them 3 years to get up to speed and we'll see F-15 EX units in the Centcom AOR or in the PACAF AOR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Think the point of the F-15EX is not to spend 3 years to introduce the "new" type, but rather have a conversion course completed and unit fully operational on the new mount within 1 year or less if possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Da SWO said: HA! Guard F-15 units have pulled "their" share of rotations. Give them 3 years to get up to speed and we'll see F-15 EX units in the Centcom AOR or in the PACAF AOR. Agreed. That's a new platform to play with and I bet it will be less than 3 years. Edited April 12, 2021 by Mr Matt Foley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk524 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 A friend is already flying it. He says it's a rocketship, the Gucci avionics take some getting used to, but overall a game changer for the Eagle community. Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MA Cooke Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I will add that I think the GE F110 exhaust nozzles look DASHING! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Some company has got to do a kit for us. This would be an opportune time for Tamiya to step up to the plate and revitalize the 1/32 F-15 series and for GWH to give us the updated kit (with better exhausts). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 12:32 PM, Niels said: They will replace legacy C/D models, firstly with the 173FW. And yes, they are multi-role hence have A2G capability. On 4/11/2021 at 3:02 PM, Mr Matt Foley said: According to the USAF they will be used extensively for Homeland Air Defense. I would however wager that if needed they'll quickly move to theater and be what everyone expects...become missile trucks for F-35 and F-22 missions. One of the big advantages of CSWs are their ease of employment. Get in the LAR and hit the pickle button. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da SWO Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Niels said: Think the point of the F-15EX is not to spend 3 years to introduce the "new" type, but rather have a conversion course completed and unit fully operational on the new mount within 1 year or less if possible. It's rare for a Guard unit to convert that quickly. They can get the full-timers up to speed fast but have to work with traditional Guardsmen/women to get class dates and minimize work issues. NGB typically allows for a 2-year conversion period. I understand the press releases say 12 months, but as a retired Guard guy, I can tell you from experience it doesn't go that fast. Plus you have to factor flat defense budgets for the next 4 years. Oregon having two units will make the conversion easier because travel is reduced and scheduling should be easier. After that, we shall see. I just hope LA get new F-15's and not F-35's. Edited April 13, 2021 by Da SWO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 The GE F110 isn't a done deal yet, P&W gets to present the F100 but they have to pay for it to be certified first. Only the F110 is certified for FBW F-15s. -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I agree it is rare for a unit to convert this quickly, but that is part of the economics of the F-15EX, whereby conversion goes so much quicker, which again saves money and allows for a unit to revert to operations quicker. It is a new concept which will be proven or faulted through the F-15EX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 9:32 AM, Mr Matt Foley said: I was wondering why not F-15F? And why "Eagle II" I was wondering why at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 12:42 PM, skyhawk524 said: A friend is already flying it. He says it's a rocketship, the Gucci avionics take some getting used to, but overall a game changer for the Eagle community. Ryan I don't doubt that, We should look at not buying enough F-22s to begin with more often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 8:20 AM, 11bee said: Nice looking decals. Question - are these new jets replacing C-models or will they be used to replace or augment Strike Eagle squadrons. Do these jets even have A2G capabilities? I think the current plan is C's possibly Es in the future. They should probably replace any A-10s the F-35 doesn't replace first. Oh yeah, I went there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 The plan is to replace the oldest C/D's to begin with. Maybe in the future with more purchases than 144 aircraft some of the F-15E's may be replaced too. Time will tell... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TaiidanTomcat said: I don't doubt that, We should look at not buying enough F-22s to begin with more often. You nailed it with that comment. We should have 3 x as many and far fewer F-35's . It is a damn shame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 this looks like a great replacement aircraft for our fleet of slightly used CF-18's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raceaddict Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, dylan said: this looks like a great replacement aircraft for our fleet of slightly used CF-18's. And yet Boeing never put them on offer... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Raceaddict said: And yet Boeing never put them on offer... They know Canada can't afford them and of course their entire sales pitch is that the Super Hornet is a natural growth of the Hornet, so a natural fit. Canadians can't be trusted with new technology, Its too scary and Boeing understands this. They think Canadians are children 5th Generation is for big boys! 1 hour ago, dylan said: this looks like a great replacement aircraft for our fleet of slightly used CF-18's. its a great excuse to reset the CF-18 replacement process yet again. They'll end up rejecting the F-15 just like the good old days, but can stretch the CF-18 replacement another 5 years at least. How would you like to have them finally starting to be phased out by 2032 or so? 3 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: You nailed it with that comment. We should have 3 x as many and far fewer F-35's . It is a damn shame. 3 X times of what? I have to know what we are talking about before I naturally disagree Edited April 14, 2021 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, TaiidanTomcat said: They know Canada can't afford them 5th Generation is for big boys! Can't afford and won't spend the money are 2 very different things. Canada has a lot of money for "other stuff" and IMO we don't need much in the way of 5th gen stuff ....yet. we need an interceptor for NORAD commitment and a bomb truck to drop ordy on people 2 days after the U.S. starts a fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) I propose we keep the topic on the original target. Discussing Canada's choice of fighter plane, desicion to continue F-22 production or not or quantities of F-35 to buy is subject for other threads 😉 Edited April 14, 2021 by Niels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goondman Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 11:58 AM, Berkut said: Atleast Boeing didnt call it "Eagle Max". Touche'. Or Super Eagle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 12:40 AM, Niels said: I propose we keep the topic on the original target. Discussing Canada's choice of fighter plane, desicion to continue F-22 production or not or quantities of F-35 to buy is subject for other threads 😉 Hold on there buddy. I started the topic...if someone wants to lament about their own Air Force et.al. I give permission. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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