ya-gabor Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, mario krijan said: I agree with you Gabor, but in such short period of time, what can you change to be better, and different, compared to version which Americans inspected?? That is for sure big PR from soviet side. Everyone knows that soviet equpment was inferior to the western equpment. Hi Mario, The difference was COMPLETE with brand new equipment to compensate for the loss of information with №31 in Western hands. For example a brand new IFF system was introduced not only for the Foxbats but for all AF and PVO aircraft which was completely safe for decades after this. If one looks at some of the comments above then it becomes evident that for example the radar of the MiG-25P wasn’t half as bad as most anticipated or the “Myth” built around Russian equipment’s inferiority. For the upgraded aircraft a brand new radar was introduced as well as the very effective passive infrared search system under the nose. The change over to new equipment was not so fast and it cost a lot of money to the Soviets to introduce it to the whole fleet. Many things were already in development but Belenkos defection was an enormous kick to accelerate developments and introduce them much earlier than originally intended. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I understand your point in all. I just want to say that they changed everything, and who knows that this revision was better or it can be worse, what american saw in Japan. There is also Adolf Tokachev who gave a lot mor inforamtion about PD and new Zaslon radar for MiG-31... afterall ukraininas gave americans all data about Tu-160 equipment, and after 25 years russians produce new Tu-160... that shows how hard is to change and improve something soo complex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat Trebor Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 What would be the best way to make a MiG-25P using the ICM kit. Regards Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Tomcat Trebor said: What would be the best way to make a MiG-25P using the ICM kit. Regards Robert Hi Robert, A lot of work! : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) Seriously. There is nothing one can do but to put in a lot of work and scratch build / rescribing! Sorry! But first try to find a good scale drawing. It will not be easy. In my opinion there is only one real MiG-25P is really available for research. That is if one is willing to travel to the Medinje some 100 or so km from Moscow. This is the bird which once was in Moscow at the Hodinka airfield. P.s. As far as I know ICM has no plan at all in making the MiG-25P in its line of Foxbat kits. (which brings up a good question on how extensive will the ICM 72nd scale MiG-23/27 family of kits, or the "family" word will only cover one MiG-23 and one MiG-27???) Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I was 14 years old and watching it on TV. The Mig-25 became one of my all time favourite aircraft after that incident. In my opinion it was a game changer for NATO to get their hands on this airframe. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danny59 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Guys, I found a treasure trove on the MiG-25 that landed in Japan. Check these documents that I found on the National Archives website: Japan - MIG - Incident (1) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (2) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (3) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (4) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (5) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (6) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (7) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) You have to go through ALL of them. Lots of political information, but also many technical reports. Good reading Danny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Vauuu!! What a great find! Thanks Danny!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Thanks for these document links. Very cool read. Seems weird seeing the word secret on my computer though, even though it's been de-classified. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Great job finding this info! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I was still active duty USAF, assigned to 9th Strat Recon Wing, Beale AFB, CA (the SR-71 gang) and TDY to Kadena Air Base, Okinawa. Even working in intelligence with a TOP SECRET security clearance, we didn't have access to information from the MiG-25 bonanza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dafixer Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/7/2021 at 3:41 PM, danny59 said: Guys, I found a treasure trove on the MiG-25 that landed in Japan. Check these documents that I found on the National Archives website: Japan - MIG - Incident (1) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (2) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (3) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (4) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (5) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG-25 Incident (6) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) Japan - MIG - Incident (7) (fordlibrarymuseum.gov) You have to go through ALL of them. Lots of political information, but also many technical reports. Good reading Danny Great reading! Thanks for posting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael A. Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I was a young Intelligence Officer at the time, actually still in OPD schooling. We were getting dribs and drabs about the 'treasure trove' the Mig-25 was providing the west. Seem to remember a comment / complaint that some Japanese toy company was allowed to photograph the Mig-25 prior to the US exploitation efforts. Hasegawa perhaps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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