serendip Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi all, I have the KH 1/48 Su-34 and am looking for 12 FAb-250-M54s or RBK-500-255s to fit under the MBD3-U6 MERs under the intakes. I don't however much feel like paying the silly money Res-Kit is asking. Does anyone know of any cheaper alternatives? Thanks all, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Not sure how the pricing pans out, but Kitty Hawk has released a Russian aircraft weapons kit, with both A2G and A2A ordenance. Could be worth checking out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Thanks Niels, I could then only use a fraction and it would wind up more expensive the Reskit. It would be good if people could / would swap more - I'd be happy to do so but I suspect everybody wants pretty much the same stuff. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Yeah I think if you are down to counting the pennies to such a degree then maybe you are better off saving the money you have and spending it on something important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Thanks for your opinion ES, but I don't see what's wrong with swapping - we all profit from that. Don't really see the need for sarcasm. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) On 9/7/2021 at 12:37 PM, serendip said: Hi all, I have the KH 1/48 Su-34 and am looking for 12 FAb-250-M54s or RBK-500-255s to fit under the MBD3-U6 MERs under the intakes. I don't however much feel like paying the silly money Res-Kit is asking. Does anyone know of any cheaper alternatives? Thanks all, Marc. Use google translator: 1. http://www.amigomodels.ru/product/amc48048/ 2. http://www.amigomodels.ru/product/amc48024-1/ Or, if these bombs are in the kit, I can send them to you, just need parts numbers. Edited September 11, 2021 by Helmsman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Thanks Helmsman for your tip regarding Amigo - great guys - payment was tricky but they were very helpful so all worked out. Very sharp prices also - so I'm saving the pennies and getting the plastic (or resin). What a lucky fellow I am. Thanks also for your kind offer regarding your spares. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 Still working on the ordnance and can't figure out from the instructions which pylon to use for a centreline KAB 1500 and which pylons for the KH-35 on stations 5 and 10. All help much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 When it comes to Russian Ordinance, Amigo is the best hands down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BraggPeak Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 13 hours ago, serendip said: Still working on the ordnance and can't figure out from the instructions which pylon to use for a centreline KAB 1500 and which pylons for the KH-35 on stations 5 and 10. All help much appreciated. I think for centreline KAB 1500, it still uses BD4-USKM-1 pylon regardless of where it is mounted to. One of the photos at http://www.amigomodels.ru/product/amc72071/# showed this configuration. Not sure about Kh-35, but in general, the pylon for Russian ordnance is independent of which station it is mounted to. There is a separate adapter that is specific to mounting stations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 18 hours ago, serendip said: which pylons for the KH-35 AKU-58 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 Thank you Gents, Both the BD4-USKM-1 and AKU-58 pylons are included in the KH kit, no mention of them in the instructions however which is / was typical of KH. Wonderful kit if you are ready for KH's merry wierdness. Thanks again for helping out! @Matt, Amigo is a lifesaver, got my KAB 250s there as Helmsman also suggested, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 One more question. Does anyone know if the KH-58ME missile would be carried (by the SU-34) with the fin tips in the stowed position or is that just for transport? Thanks again! Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/31/2021 at 8:09 AM, serendip said: One more question. Does anyone know if the KH-58ME missile would be carried (by the SU-34) with the fin tips in the stowed position or is that just for transport? Thanks again! Marc. Anyone in the know? Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Berkut would probably know...not certain what he's up to these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Looks like folded fins are on USHK(E) model which is intended for internal carry by Su-57. The rest use regular fins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Thanks all for the feedback, But then why would Kitty Hawk include a missile variant that is only used on a jet they do not even have in their range? Or is this just a Kitty Hawk thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 1:38 PM, serendip said: Thanks all for the feedback, But then why would Kitty Hawk include a missile variant that is only used on a jet they do not even have in their range? Or is this just a Kitty Hawk thing? This is one of the many Kitty Hawk mysteries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) On 11/4/2021 at 12:38 PM, serendip said: Thanks all for the feedback, But then why would Kitty Hawk include a missile variant that is only used on a jet they do not even have in their range? Or is this just a Kitty Hawk thing? It's a KH thing. They just threw in their whole bunch of weapon sprues regardless of if they can be used/cleared on the aircraft or not and copy/paste the same weapons instructions for every russian plane kit. Their Yak-130 kit has the Kh-58ME missiles thrown in the box and on the instructions together with R-27, R-60, Kh-29, Kh-31, KAB-1500 and so on. 🙄 Edited November 6, 2021 by Inquisitor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 It is a manufacturing issue. It is likely cheaper to have a standard weapons sprue that you can reproduce for each applicable kit rather than several sprues with jet specific weapons. Cuts down on the cost of manufacturing several molds which is the cost driver. Just leave of what you don't want or need is the philosophy. If you compare to ie Meng, who has one sprue per weapon, you have a completely different weapons philosophy. Which is most cost efficient - can't say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Another question for those far more knowledgeable than me. I'm also attaching the Kab 1500 KL to the centreline pylon of my KH Su-34. Does anyone know which pylons and / or parts numbers I need to do this? On pictures I believe a pylon and a pylon extension (if that's the term) are required. I'm pretty sure the parts are on the sprues somewhere but the KH instructions to put it nicely are somewhat of a challenge. Thanks, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 17 hours ago, serendip said: Another question for those far more knowledgeable than me. I'm also attaching the Kab 1500 KL to the centreline pylon of my KH Su-34. Does anyone know which pylons and / or parts numbers I need to do this? On pictures I believe a pylon and a pylon extension (if that's the term) are required. I'm pretty sure the parts are on the sprues somewhere but the KH instructions to put it nicely are somewhat of a challenge. Thanks, Marc. BraggPeak, apologies, you kind of answered this one earlier. I was wondering however if there was an intermediate pylon also fitted but rechecking your photo's that doesn't seem to be the case. This (excellent) build threw me regarding that: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235063864-148-su-34-fullback-frontline-bomber/&tab=comments#comment-3505365 Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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